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> It's a bit of dry tooling with a grade 6 icicle at the top
On par with cutting edge dry tooling, I know this in no way qualifies it but, it is not just another bit of dry tooling.
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> Once you get to the top...
It rare that a perfect winter feature comprises the entire route, im sure you can name a fair few but thats because they're famous features.
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> Climber's climbers don't bolt.
Bollocks! I didnt want to have to qualify this but i know ill need too.
Pete has been (largely) replacing bolts so for the most part it has been a like-for-like, bar the stunning 'diamond project'. Sport climbing has for a long time now been a large facet of modern climbing, without it standards would no where near reach what they have. To be honest your statement is plainly under-educated, and this is not the place to discuss it.
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> True only to the poor fools who are obsessed with grades.
Again, wrong. If you are keen enough you'll be out regularly enough to progress. If you are not then unfortunately its a confidence issue and lack of self belief. On top of this some people are in it for the challenge, so more fool you who does not get to experience the greater challenges, exposure and exhilaration of your own limits.
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> "I didn't even know it was an existing summer line until I saw the pegs and looked it up in the guidebook afterwards."
In this case i agree slighty, he should have checked first, however, judging by the text he had found himself gazing at a stunning line whilst in the pass and just gone for it which is brilliant.
Pete being a major north wales activist and not being aware this was a summer route just goes to show its previous insignificance.
I know ignorance is no defence, but i think even if he had known in all honesty he would have still one it.