In reply to matt perks:
Are you insane?
I once got asked by somebody what was good winter climbing food. I managed to keep a straight face and recommend Yorkies, Mars Bars and Fruit Gums.
Looking back, that person may have at best, lost a tooth, and at worst died of starvation in intense pain. Probably shouldn't have done it.
To the rest of the thread: Some of it is true, some of it just ain't.
I have a belay jacket in my bag, it gets fairly little usage.
I sometimes have a spare pair of gloves, if I know they're going to get soaked. Often as not I have the liner gloves and the gloves that go on over it. They've started to lose their proofing I think, started to get more hotaches this winter. Could be lack of fitness too. Still, hotaches are part of the fun and you have to experience them once.
I wouldn't ever take more than a litre of fluid, normally about 600ml, half of which is sugary tea in a mini cheap stainless thermosy thing. And I'd try and drink as much from burns on the walk-in, and be hydrated before I leave the car.
The person who suggested changing their baselayer - Jesus man! Take less stuff and you won't sweat as much!
If everyone followed all the advice, they'd have in their bag, two sets of baselayer, five pairs of gloves, about 2kg in fluids plus assorted fancy ridiculous insulating case, a GPS (!!!), their approach shoes (!!!!?), and their camera.
How are you meant to climb with all that shite?
The other thing is that there seems to be a lot of bag removal and rummage and assorted faffing.
I don't know what other people are like but generally I make a belay, pull rope up, bring second up, then we continue climbing! I'm not exactly rapid either as countless benightments will attest. If you add five or ten minutes of pissing about taking off rucksacks and getting out belay jackets and all that at every stance you're going to get in trouble.
Seems to me the most likely concern as a beginner is that I will probably take too long on a route and get benighted, or get destroyed by the weather/conditions. So adding more stuff to slow you down and suggesting everybody fannies about in their rucksacks at every stance.
Gear doesn't really come into it, otherwise how did all these routes get climbed in the first place before Goretex, belay jackets and Nalgene insulating cases? And to be honest, you're in the mountains. You're not meant to be perfectly warm and dry. Sometimes you have to get a bit wet and cold so you appreciate it when you get a bluebird day. You're not meant to have somebody tell you exactly where you are. Sometimes you have to get a bit lost so you can tighten up your navigation.
I'd say to a beginner: don't worry about equipment.
Understanding navigation is important. Fitness is important. Slick ropework is important. Knowing how to climb fast and when to do so (tell me when you've figured that one out) is important. Avalanches are very important. Following the weather before and during is important. Hot squash is nice, but it isn't important.
Camera...I've never had one and it's never really made much of a difference. I'm on facebook so partners often take photos, and it is nice to see them. But I've never really seen a photo that's done a route justice after the fact, and quite often they make it look really easy when it felt really hard!