In reply to TobyA:
> (In reply to HeMa) Did you like them?
Yah, actually have two pairs. Alas, both are gettin' pretty beat up by now.
> My thigh size (big!) makes finding comfortable jeans tricky, but I liked the idea of waterproof ones!
Yah, the skinny ones were pretty tight on me thigh as well. But the latter, more loose cut are really nice. As for the waterproofing... well, I did end up ice craggin' with 'em (after I forgot my softshell troos @ home), but I'd say they are more like water repellent. Like 'em though, and if Alpkit makes more of them (the loose kind, por favor), I'll order a pair or two.