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Sorry about this, I hope you all don't think I'm being really stupid but I would like to know the actual meaning of the word 'send' in relation to climbing. Also the phrase 'send it'. I ask because it's something I am hearing more and more of and when I do hear it, it seem to make absolutely no sense to me! I hope I'm not offending those who ue the term I just don't get it!
In reply to eggman83:
I was under the impression it was some mangled abbreviation of ascend. Never use the term though. Or "crush".
I was under the impression it was some mangled abbreviation of ascend. Never use the term though. Or "crush".
In reply to eggman83: I presume it's another term borrowed from skiing or snowboarding. It's also used in the world of mountain biking, as in "send it off that cliff/jump/gap,etc.." All nonsense if you ask me.
In reply to bullandbladder:
I was under the impression it came from Ascend (ascend it). I may be wrong though.
Whether its 'send it dude' or 'I say old chap, go climb it' I dont really mind, I dont think any of the new twists on our language are nonsense.
> (In reply to eggman83) I presume it's another term borrowed from skiing or snowboarding. It's also used in the world of mountain biking, as in "send it off that cliff/jump/gap,etc.." All nonsense if you ask me.
I was under the impression it came from Ascend (ascend it). I may be wrong though.
Whether its 'send it dude' or 'I say old chap, go climb it' I dont really mind, I dont think any of the new twists on our language are nonsense.
In reply to eggman83:
Surely it is Americanism;
"send it", "crush it", "way to go", "splitter", "bullet-hard", "dude",
- all make me wince every time I read them but I then I am not American!
Chris
Surely it is Americanism;
"send it", "crush it", "way to go", "splitter", "bullet-hard", "dude",
- all make me wince every time I read them but I then I am not American!
Chris
In reply to eggman83: Send it is more or less the same as burning the route dude.
In reply to eggman83: From ascend, American. Drops some letters and makes it easier for them to say and spell?
In reply to eggman83:
I'm not entirely sure but somebody told me that "send it" is American slang for "be a total wanker".
I'm not entirely sure but somebody told me that "send it" is American slang for "be a total wanker".
In reply to eggman83:
Don't worry about offending people - it can't be more irritating than the term itself...grumble..blah
Don't worry about offending people - it can't be more irritating than the term itself...grumble..blah
In reply to Chris Craggs:
Especially when written by people of good Yorkhire working stock who really should know better.
> - all make me wince every time I read them but I then I am not American!
>Especially when written by people of good Yorkhire working stock who really should know better.
In reply to GrahamD:
I still read the American mags occasionally and am amazed that virtually every article uses 'splitter cracks' and 'bullet hard stone' - almost without exception!
Chris
I still read the American mags occasionally and am amazed that virtually every article uses 'splitter cracks' and 'bullet hard stone' - almost without exception!
Chris
In reply to Formerly Known as Pylon King:
I couldn't agree more. If climbing just turns into us treating the lines with the least respect possible, then we just end up with another meaningless sport. Unfortunately some phrases are very catchy and a drive for greater efficiency of language will lead to these terms becoming even more popular. It's a real shame though.
> (In reply to eggman83)
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> I'm not entirely sure but somebody told me that "send it" is American slang for "be a total wanker".
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> I'm not entirely sure but somebody told me that "send it" is American slang for "be a total wanker".
I couldn't agree more. If climbing just turns into us treating the lines with the least respect possible, then we just end up with another meaningless sport. Unfortunately some phrases are very catchy and a drive for greater efficiency of language will lead to these terms becoming even more popular. It's a real shame though.
In reply to eggman83:
Americans tend have difficulty with more than one syllable in a word.
Examples that spring to mind are Squirl (squirrel) and George W's famous "Terrst", a fine example of reducing three syllables into one.
Any other examples anyone?
Americans tend have difficulty with more than one syllable in a word.
Examples that spring to mind are Squirl (squirrel) and George W's famous "Terrst", a fine example of reducing three syllables into one.
Any other examples anyone?
In reply to Fredt:
To be fair, so do most Brits.
> (In reply to eggman83)
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> Americans tend have difficulty with more than one syllable in a word.
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> Americans tend have difficulty with more than one syllable in a word.
To be fair, so do most Brits.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=33
"SEND. American for "climb". Must have originated in California, though why and when is anyone's guess. Usage: "Dude, you really sent that problem." Generally applied to bouldering problems, to give some idea of intensity. Perhaps. Then again, perhaps they just found it easier to say."
"SEND. American for "climb". Must have originated in California, though why and when is anyone's guess. Usage: "Dude, you really sent that problem." Generally applied to bouldering problems, to give some idea of intensity. Perhaps. Then again, perhaps they just found it easier to say."
I'm so glad I'm not alone in hating this phrase. I had a suspicion it was another stupid americanism creeping into our lexicon. How can any Englishman in their right mind use this term without feeling the need to go out and buy a gun for no other reason than 'everyone else has one!' I mean why do we always crave being like americans, do people forget they were trying to get away from us. Please don't think I'm being xenophobic I just get annoyed when people make up words which are shortened versions of other words, it makes no sense, it's not big and not clever!
End of rant!
End of rant!
In reply to Fredt:
Forst.
> (In reply to eggman83)
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> Americans tend have difficulty with more than one syllable in a word.
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> Examples that spring to mind are Squirl (squirrel) and George W's famous "Terrst", a fine example of reducing three syllables into one.
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> Any other examples anyone?
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> Americans tend have difficulty with more than one syllable in a word.
>
> Examples that spring to mind are Squirl (squirrel) and George W's famous "Terrst", a fine example of reducing three syllables into one.
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> Any other examples anyone?
Forst.
In reply to eggman83:
fantastic so as a Scotman, it's ok for me to use? Can I have a gun too?
> How can any Englishman in their right mind use this term without feeling the need to go out and buy a gun for no other reason than 'everyone else has one!'
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> End of rant!
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> End of rant!
fantastic so as a Scotman, it's ok for me to use? Can I have a gun too?
In reply to eggman83:
Neither are you. That sentence read like a child's 'stream of conciousness' speech. You are annoyed with a change in lexicon, but can't express yourself properly.
Are they making words up or are they shortening them? I just don't know. Language evolves all the time. Get over it.
Chris
(Who has never 'sent' anything in anger, but couldn't give a shit how others express themselves)
> Please don't think I'm being xenophobic I just get annoyed when people make up words which are shortened versions of other words, it makes no sense, it's not big and not clever!
Neither are you. That sentence read like a child's 'stream of conciousness' speech. You are annoyed with a change in lexicon, but can't express yourself properly.
Are they making words up or are they shortening them? I just don't know. Language evolves all the time. Get over it.
Chris
(Who has never 'sent' anything in anger, but couldn't give a shit how others express themselves)
In reply to eggman83:
I assumed it was from "send the problem packing" as in whooped it's bullet hard stoney ass
I assumed it was from "send the problem packing" as in whooped it's bullet hard stoney ass
In reply to Fredt:
Compensated for by the process of turning nuclear into nu-kil-ear.
Almost nuclear fission in a sense.
Compensated for by the process of turning nuclear into nu-kil-ear.
Almost nuclear fission in a sense.
In reply to eggman83:
No need to be sorry Eggman. Climbing's colourful and rich language can be confusing.
To send means means to climb a route without falling, by redpoint, flash or onsight style, or to complete, or 'despatch' a boulder problem.
You send, and you have done the route or boulder problem.
It's origin is 1980's and it comes from to send or despatch a letter...to have done with it.
..one source sites a US climber called Brooke Sandahl who used to sing the Elvis Presley song , 'Return To Sender' whilst climbing...'Return to sender, address unknown, no such number, no such phone' but I am not sure about that.
I like sending routes or boulder problems, means I can get on with my next send.
Mick
> Sorry about this, I hope you all don't think I'm being really stupid but I would like to know the actual meaning of the word 'send' in relation to climbing.
No need to be sorry Eggman. Climbing's colourful and rich language can be confusing.
To send means means to climb a route without falling, by redpoint, flash or onsight style, or to complete, or 'despatch' a boulder problem.
You send, and you have done the route or boulder problem.
It's origin is 1980's and it comes from to send or despatch a letter...to have done with it.
..one source sites a US climber called Brooke Sandahl who used to sing the Elvis Presley song , 'Return To Sender' whilst climbing...'Return to sender, address unknown, no such number, no such phone' but I am not sure about that.
I like sending routes or boulder problems, means I can get on with my next send.
Mick
In reply to Mick Ryan - Senior Editor - UKC:
Surely you mean sending your next proj, dude?
> I like sending routes or boulder problems, means I can get on with my next send.
Surely you mean sending your next proj, dude?
In reply to Mick Ryan - Senior Editor - UKC:
related words to send, same meaning, are schralp and shred, from Southern California skateboard culture.
related words to send, same meaning, are schralp and shred, from Southern California skateboard culture.
In reply to Mick Ryan - Senior Editor - UKC:
I've always thought of shred as coming from a skiing culture.
I've always thought of shred as coming from a skiing culture.
In reply to pneame:
That is correct my good fellow.
Now you must excuse me I have a way to travel down the New York freeway and along the Mass Turnpike to Boston, on UKC business.
Once I've finished my waffles and maple syryp.
Laterz,
Mick
> (In reply to Mick Ryan - Senior Editor - UKC)
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> Surely you mean sending your next proj, dude?
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> Surely you mean sending your next proj, dude?
That is correct my good fellow.
Now you must excuse me I have a way to travel down the New York freeway and along the Mass Turnpike to Boston, on UKC business.
Once I've finished my waffles and maple syryp.
Laterz,
Mick
In reply to eggman83:
I have to admit to using "send" but only ironicallly. If I am serious I use "conquer".
I have to admit to using "send" but only ironicallly. If I am serious I use "conquer".
In reply to jon:
Like, er, yes - the dude's totally rad - as on his profile pic
Like, er, yes - the dude's totally rad - as on his profile pic
In reply to Chris Craggs:
add to that list "youre the man"
> (In reply to eggman83)
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> Surely it is Americanism;
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> "send it", "crush it", "way to go", "splitter", "bullet-hard", "dude",
>
> - all make me wince every time I read them but I then I am not American!
>
>
> Chris
>
> Surely it is Americanism;
>
> "send it", "crush it", "way to go", "splitter", "bullet-hard", "dude",
>
> - all make me wince every time I read them but I then I am not American!
>
>
> Chris
add to that list "youre the man"
In reply to colina: F@&kin' A!
In reply to colina:
Uh-oh, missing apostrophe! This could turn nasty!
BTW - Black Diamond (I think) had an advertising slogan "Built for the send" on the back cover of one of my climbing guides. Always wondered what it meant.
Simon.
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> add to that list "youre the man"
> add to that list "youre the man"
Uh-oh, missing apostrophe! This could turn nasty!
BTW - Black Diamond (I think) had an advertising slogan "Built for the send" on the back cover of one of my climbing guides. Always wondered what it meant.
Simon.
> In reply to Mick Ryan - Senior Editor - UKC:
> no such phone'
> no such phone'
Erm... zone?
In reply to Robert Durran:
Nice.
I agree with those above who say 'crush' is a nasty americanism, so I've started using 'squash' instead. Hence "You totally crushed it dude!", becomes "Well done old chap, you completely squashed it!"
> I have to admit to using "send" but only ironicallly. If I am serious I use "conquer".
Nice.
I agree with those above who say 'crush' is a nasty americanism, so I've started using 'squash' instead. Hence "You totally crushed it dude!", becomes "Well done old chap, you completely squashed it!"
In reply to eggman83:
Apparently we have a new mode of transport:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=54873
http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=66491
Anyway, I'm off to catch that train to Ratho for some sendage.
Apparently we have a new mode of transport:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=54873
http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=66491
Anyway, I'm off to catch that train to Ratho for some sendage.
In reply to eggman83: It pains me to say that I find the term 'wad' somewhat irritating (but that could be my age). When I were a lad it meant a sandwich - but then that might be totally appropriate for some of the, er, non-punters out there.
In reply to Stone Idol:
Yes, wad is irritating but using 'über' in English really pisses me off. So does 'sans'.
Yes, wad is irritating but using 'über' in English really pisses me off. So does 'sans'.
In reply to Robert Durran: Excellent. I like "vanquish" too.
In reply to eggman83: This thread is sick dude.
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