In reply to Pids:
surely by the council putting in safety measures round dumby would attract more climbers and make existing climbers go more (such as my mate, girlfriend and myself, as we were attacked by youths a few weeks back on my birthday climb
7 of them also through bottles and assaulted another climber) which may not directly effect dumbarton locals but indirectly because when i go to dumby i pay for the train, stock up on munchies from asda of morrisons, mcdonalds for lunch and kebab for dinner
so more money is being spent in the area.