In reply to higherclimbingwales:
> The braking force has nothing to do with the total impact force of a falling climber.
Really? So you're about to fall from three metres above the last bolt on a vertical sport climb, or from a metre or two above your well placed but small and weak micro-wire on a trad climb, and in both cases it wouldn't bother you whether you were belayed by 15 stones of pie eater with a grigri or an 8 stone waif with an ATC? Anyway, what's that got to do with the cross-loading of belay biners?
In reply to Madden:
> why would you want to put yourself in the hands of something which is not as strong as it could be? The climber's frame of mind tends to be 'everything must be as strong as possible.
I can't speak for other climbers but my own frame of mind tends to be 'everything must be as strong as it needs to be'. Will my gear hold if I fall on it? Will my belay hold if my mate falls? Two 'yes' answers and I'm happy.
In reply to jimtitt and neil the weak:
Thanks for reading properly and your replies.