* by - Robert Durran ? on - 12:04 Thu
In reply to cb294:
> (In reply to Goucho)
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> Ask the people entitled to make that decisions, i.e. the local stakeholders.
As an alpinist, I am also a stakeholder.
> There is bound to be a paper trail.
I'll make sure there's no trail of any sort if I decide to go and chop them....
> If I had to hazard a guess, I would think that it was done for the convenience and safety of the local guides
ie it is just another example of the insidious rampant cancer of commercialism that is eating into climbing.
> However, you are simply not entitled to have a route kept in its original state just because that is your favourite way of climbing.
I think I should be entitled to climb the route as Cassin found it (and don't tell me that means I have to wear 1930s clothing etc!)
> If you prefer, there are plenty of pure trad routes close by anyway.
Yes, but none of them are uber-classics like the Cassin.
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> The reverse holds true as well, if you are looking for bolt protected sport crags don´t go to the Peak district, go to France instead.
No, but I would expect to go to the Alps to find proper Alpine routes which havn't been retrobolted. The Swiss are doing the equivalent of bolting Cloggy.
> It is for the locals, and the locals only, to set the rules on their mountains.
I disagree.
It seems like you have deleted this message... if that is true it simply backs up mine, and many others views, that you are a penis.
Especially the last point on that list.