In reply to DaveHK: Okay Dave jsut looked like i was being doubted , had a proper Scottish day on Andromeda , claggy start , found savage slit and had to traverse across to Andromeda , started snowing on the first pitch , two bouts of hot aches , wind got up stinging the face with spindrift , shivering bouts at the belays ,gear retrieval problems due to snow absolutely loved it !!