In reply to mountassguard:
Now, you might be right
But I thought that ABO was set to one side of the grading system, like HXS in trad grading
So an HXS 5b route wouldn't be harder than an E 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 7c, just very loose and scary. Same with ABO.
I guess we'll have to wait till ondra does alpine to find out...
Cheers
Gregor