In reply to climber34neil:
IMO Best softshell,troos, Arc'teryx Gamma SK. Can also be used with lightweight wool underwear if its cold and dry, but I generally tend not to bother.
Best Hardshell Troos, Arc'teryx Beta AR. I team mine up with merino underwear (with a power stretch midlayer if its cold) and thus far have never been uncomfortable.
It's undeniable the only thing they can be beaten on is price, but for what they are and the way they perform, they are actually incredibly good value! So long as they fit.