In reply to TobyA:
> I get kinda of annoyed by statements like this ...
You seem to be guilty of making some assumptions here. Nowhere did I imply that I think climbing grade V is not challenging. What I was commenting on is my view of the NATURE of the challenge it poses. I firmly believe it is mainly related to factors other than the difficulty of the individual moves you need to climb.
For me, the whole joy of Scottish Winter climbing is that it is essentially the antithesis of bouldering. Success is generally related to your tenacity, perseverance and the ability to progress in a calm, considered and occasionally bold manner and has less direct connection to pure physicality.
One of my best ever climbing experiences was spending 3 hours leading my first pitch of VI,7 in the Cairngorms. I am massively proud of the fact that I persevered and succeeded but I am equally relaxed about the fact I was standing or bridged (albeit nervously) in balance for almost the entire time and that I didn't actually make a single 'hard' move on the whole pitch.
For me, it is just a statement of fact that the individual moves on Winter (or Alpine) routes are not particularly challenging in isolation, at least compared with other styles of climbing. If you have a different view, then we will just need to agree to disagree.