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Hi all,

I'm thinking about buying a rack of Alien Cams... thoughts? Still worth getting or would you recommend something else? and why?

Ben

In reply to MunkeeBen:

I don't like that they have no passive strength, I often cock placements up and end up with a semi active semi passive placement.

In reply to MunkeeBen: I would wait a litle bit and get the new BD X4's. If you cannt wai then get either Fixe Aliens or Totem Basic cams (Totem Aliens).
I have climbed with almost all cams and find that Metolius Mastercams camming angle is to small so they get stuck alot. The sling is too short and they dont like salty air.
WC Zeros and great but again camming angle is small (bigger range than Mastercams). Great in horizontals until you fall on them and they kink.
BD C3's (which I have along with CCH Aliens) are great for 2 reasons. 1 the head is tiny and 2 they are very durable.
If I were your I would save up (cause BD X4 will be pricy) and get BD X4's. There is a good vid online of them.

In reply to MunkeeBen:
Hi, i've got a full set of the totem basic cams including the hybrid units, i think they are awesome. I took them on a big walling trip this summer and they held up very well, i even took a factor two fall onto one of the hybrid units ( red/yellow) and it did'nt even flinch. If you buy directly from totem and buy a full set they offer a discount. Which is not a bad incentive.

In reply to MunkeeBen: My tuppence, worth: http://www.joe-brown.com/outdoor-equipment/wild_country_zero_friends__set_o...

Zeros split people, I love them, especially the doubled slings and how light they are. Others prefer Aliens, Metolius Master Cams or BD C3s for various reasons, most due to personal preference, some due to concerns about durability. However, the nature of micro cams is that they will always be on the fiddly side but these are just at a ridiculously good price.

In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

It would be even better if they had more than 3 sizes in stock!

In reply to Nick Russell:


have you seen how piddly the size 3 is? Unless it is for aiding I can't see the point really of 1 and 2

In reply to Hannes:

Size 1 and 2 are 3 and 4kn rated. I've fallen on microwires lower than that! The 3 is 6kn rated. Bomber!