I was just wondering if anyone knew why 2012 has significantly less routes added compared to 2011.
A few ideas I thought of where that the weather was worse than other years (I personally didn't notice it being particularly worse than usual), or perhaps people are using other online logbooks.
Another thought I had is that people may add all their routes from a previous year in one go, and these haven't been added yet.
I personally use the ukc logbooks more than any other part of the website, and believe they are a great resource to the community. It would be a real shame if the numbers dwindled as user input is such an integral part to making it work.
UKC Staff Edit: The title of this post has been edited. Read the UKC response lower down this thread for details.
In reply to DerwentDiluted: well it's looking unanimous with the weather to blame. I noticed the end of the year being pretty grim but not particularly bad. Just googled annual rainfall levels and it was the second wettest year on record! Oh well hopefully this year will reap more climbing rewards.
In reply to deacondeacon: i was out every week last year, about 3-4 times a week.. dodging the rain and climbing part of routes that were dry... the number of climbs i logged reduced in comparison to the last couple of years because i started to sports climb alot more and got into red pointing... meaning some weeks i only bagged one new climb , repeated some climbs loads.. as warm ups .. as some crags have very few routes suitable to use as warm up routrd, i spent about the last 4 weeks of the season on only one route until i red pointed it, using another easier route to warm up every time.. because other stuff was wet or too difficult. i also usually bag 50+ routes every time i go on my summer holiday to france.. i didn't go last year... flogged myself on the same route in the uk instead!
Hi Deacondeacon, your original thread title was incorrect, so I have edited it.
Your original thread title: Why are fewer people using the UKC logbooks? My new thread title: Why were fewer routes logged on UKC in 2012 than 2011?
There are more users actively using the UKC logbooks now than ever before, and this number is still steadily growing.
People actively using logbooks on UKC:
Dec 2011 - 16,529
Dec 2012 - 19,635
As to why there were less actual routes ticked last year than the year before, I'm not sure, but it could be the weather. There are more people adding their climbs, but the amount they have done has decreased.
In reply to Jack Geldard - UKC Chief Editor: yep that makes more sense, like I said in my opening post I'm a big fan of the logbooks, and its now pretty clear that the weather has affected many people.
Hopefully this year will hit half a million ascents.
In reply to deacondeacon:
Yeah, pretty clear upward trend until last year.
Definitely go with the weather - both poor winter season and very wet summer across anywhere south of the highlands (which actually had a good summer - not that you'd know it from the London oriented news in the UK)
In reply to ericinbristol: Managed 51 days of climbing outside last year (45 in the UK) got outside every month and only had two days curtailed by rain. I have finely honed my internet weather researching skills and developed a willingness to alter plans at short notice to head for wherever the rain seems to be skirting around. I can remember having time to climb but nowhere being dry on a few occasions - the last 2 weeks of April were particularly frustrating.
Yes, that's the way to do it - research the weather and be flexible. And stubborn. On one hard (for me) redpoint, I did it with cloths pre-stuffed into three crucial sopping wet pockets. Pulled them out as I got to them, put them back in for the next attempt. The good thing about it is that when you get on a project and it is actually dry, it feels soooo much easier.
In reply to deacondeacon: I did two weeks in Morocco and two weeks in Switzerland but logged absolutely nothing from those four weeks, despite a new 800m alpine route in the Atlas.
There was a trip up Tower Ridge in winter too, that ended when my mate got ill at Little Tower and we wandered back down but that was a cracking day out, I did nothing but smile.
Whilst I think the logbook is great, it really didn't reflect my year at all.