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Hi

I have some photos from the late 1950s/early 1960s that I need to identify.

They are at: http://www.philkelly.com/galleries/unknowns

If anyone can help identify the people and/or the routes I would be really grateful.

Thanks!

Phil

In reply to BlownAway:

last two are promontory traverse at Black Rocks by the look of it.

In reply to BlownAway:
wow, amazing photos!!!!

In reply to Removed User: In reply to Removed User: I should have said, the final 2 are Birch Tree Wall and Promontory Traverse (both at Black Rocks; it's the limestone routes and climbers I'd really like to identify.

One of the limestone shots is a route called Memnon at Stoney Middleton.

Phil

In reply to BlownAway:
Is number 4 raven tor??

In reply to BlownAway: #5 looks like Ilam Rock - don't know what route though - was white edge originally a peg route?

In reply to BlownAway: The pinnacle looks a bit like Symonds Yat, but I'm not certain.

BW

In reply to BlownAway:

5 is Pickering Overhang,


Chris

In reply to BlownAway: I'm pretty sure the 4th one is Ilam Rock in Dovedale. Appears to be what is now The Gladiator E4 6a - being aid-climbed in the picture isn't it? Possibly no 5 also Ilam Rock, but I'm uncertain.

In reply to Chris Craggs:

Are you sure, Chris? It's hard to reconcile with the picture in my guidebook (Peak Limestone South 1987).

In reply to Rog Wilko: As for the first one, I have a hazy memory of a small cave like that near Gymnic, Ravensdale, though it's unlikely anyone would have lugged their bike up there. The bike may suggest it's quite close to a road.

In reply to Rog Wilko:

I think so - isn't that the flake of Chunky Punky on the right?


Chris

In reply to BlownAway:

The 1st one might be the Celestial Twins?

The 3rd one might be the old aid route to the left of West Window Groove?

No 5 - High Tor or Raven's Tor?

No 6 - White Edge?


Chris

In reply to BlownAway:

Is Number 3 aiding what is now 'Twilight of the Tired Gods' at Thor's Cave?

I've added a couple more.

Shot 009 is clearly High Tor, but what route?

Phil

In reply to BlownAway:

High Tor, Debauchery?

Steve

In reply to SteveSBlake:

Deffo. I have seen that photo somewhere before (old Southern Limestone guide?), might be Jack Street on the sharp end.


Chris

In reply to Chris Craggs:
The pic of Debauchary is in Hard Rock (maybe just the old edition)? The climber is either Chris Jackson or Jack Street.

In reply to Mark Harding:
Its Debauchery and its Chris Jackson Photo by Bob Keates

In reply to Andy Say: But not quite the same photo as in Hard Rock - slightly earlier in the sequence I think

In reply to Chris Craggs:
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The cave at Celestial twins has a 4' step up to it, I think it's either the cave next to Ilam rock, by the footbridge, or possibley the cave at the bottom of Pickering Tor, taken from a starge angle.

The bike rider must have come down the dale, from Milldale. (Something I do most Tuesday nights!)

In reply to BlownAway: in picture 008 the man on the left MIGHT be Colin Kirkus http://www.wayfarersclub.org.uk/the_wayfarers_club_origins.html

In reply to Chris Craggs:
004 is The Flake. Pickering Overhang is futher to the left.

In reply to BlownAway: Picture three looks like it might be Face Route at Gordale?

In reply to Karl Lunt: Sadly not in the 1950s.

In reply to Rob Exile Ward: (in reply to Karl Lunt)

Picture 008 is actually much earlier than the rest. It could date from anywhere around 1925 onwards, so it *could* be Kirkus but that would be doubtful.

There is a possibility that the chap at the back of the group could be Philip A Barnes who took a lot of photos published in the early gritstone guidebooks.

Phil

In reply to Andy Say:

I think the first edition used exactly the same photo but the second edition used a slightly different one from the same sequence.

In reply to BlownAway: great, where did you get them from Phil?
vxc

In reply to Al Evans: Hi Al

They're just some of the photos that have come in whilst I've been looking for pics.

It's the group of 3 climbers that I'd really like to get identified.

Phil

In reply to BlownAway:

I think about your best bet would be go get in touch with one of the old timers in the Oread Mountaineering Club, like Derrick Burgess, because Black Rocks, High Tor, Dovedale etc was very much their patch.

In reply to Andy Say:

Stylish use of the rope over the top of the peg...

In reply to dominic lee:
#5 white edge.
#8 no idea but nice hats. The guy at the back could be Bill Sykes from Oliver..