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Anyone know why DMM aren't selling crampons at the moment?

Is it because they are going to bring out a new range to match their shiny ice axe range?

I only ask as I've been wanting to get some terminators for a while and now they don't sell em! If they are bringing out a new range i'm happy to wait a while, but otherwise I may consider second hand or other makes etc.

What do people think? Will they bring out some before next winter?

In reply to Stuart Hurworth: I don't believe there will be any new crampons until winter 2014/2015 at the earliest.

In reply to Stuart Hurworth:

Ask them? They're usually pretty good at answering people's queries.

In reply to Stuart Hurworth:
Most people prefer monos with a hinge now a days especially the lighter ones like darts or G20, however if you want rigid then the Rambos are nice.

In reply to Stuart Hurworth:

Try Rock On- I'm fairly certain they've got some terminators on their shelves at the Birmingham store. At a good price too.

http://www.rockonclimbing.co.uk/redpointshop.html

However, I think there are better crampons out there- the excellent Petzl Lynx for example.

In reply to Ander:
They also have them here
http://www.climbers-shop.com/674/crampons_climbing.aspx

In reply to CurlyStevo:

I wonder if there is any particular reason why besides that what the cool looking new model are?

Terminators are/were actually quite light, lighter than G14s and Cyborgs for instance.

In reply to TobyA:
Dunno Toby, I do know most people I know with dual pointed crampons tend to leave them as duals OR monos so if monos are definitely wanted you may as well save some weight and get some specialist ones. I have Rambos (as well as G14 and sabretooths), partially as Freneys are quite flexible for B3 boots and it helps to stiffen them up a little.

I find that some ice is better with duals and some with monos. Monos smash the ice up less and are easier to get in sometimes, but on very hard ice the longer mono point doesn't seem to get as much penetration as I'd like leaving a lot of leaverage on my calves. On slushier ice the monos have a tendency to slip. I'm still not sure which I prefer overall.

On mixed monos feel much more natural IMO and you can rock over and pick out small features for bridging more like rock climbing.

In reply to TobyA:
"I wonder if there is any particular reason why besides that what the cool looking new model are?"

I do wonder if this is partially why the lynx are so popular at the moment.

In reply to CurlyStevo: I think the Lynx are just the swiss army knife of crampons currently and I'm sure do most things perfectly well. If I could only have one pair I that's what I'd go for.

In reply to TobyA:
I guess its partially what fits your boots best. I think for winter I'd keep my Rambos out of all the pairs I have (and over the Lynx), but I wouldn't much fancy them for summer alpine!

The Rock On shop at Mile End have an original pair of terminators in stock. I know this because I bought their last pair of replacement anti-balling plates for my terminators last Wednesday, and they dug out the terminator box while I was there.

In reply to Stuart Hurworth: Thanks guys some good info!

Basically the reason I was keen on terminators is they are the only crampon i've tried and when I did I was amazed by how secure they felt and how easy it seemed to be to get a bomber placement on ice. That experience together with the positive comments and good reviews they have made me think that's the crampon to go for. Having said that if i'd tried any other crampons instead I probably would have felt just as positive about them, being the first crampons i've ever used!

Interesting point about summer alpine, was wondering about that as my friend is keen on climbing the Matterhorn at some point, but i'm guessing from that terminators are not the most appropriate?! I only have B3's though so is it worth getting a less technical crampon as their still won't be any flex and we're probably only talking about 100g less anyway?