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I was climbing at a rather busy Kyloe Out on Saturday and my partner pointed out a BBQ which was underneath the Saint's Wall area.

I politely and calmly asked the 'perpetrator' to move the BBQ away from the rock, at the time the flames where licking over the roof. He did so without argument.

I'd imagine this guy wasn't really a climber (if he was then he should know better) - more someone who'd come along with others. PLEASE REMEMBER to educate your friends before taking them along to the crag with you. Apart from the obvious damage to the rock this can cause access issues and at a worse case scenario, a banning of all climbing at the crag.

As the crag was already at a high capacity - I counted 22 cars parked - incidents like these only strain access issues on private land.

Please be responsible and take responsibility for you and anyone you bring along for the ride.

In reply to odox:
Thanks for that, we carried out their mess which had been "hidden" under a bush. Assumed it had been from a few days ago.

In reply to odox: I was there on Saturday and saw no evidence of the BBQing, I was mainly at the other end of the crag though. Good effort to the guy who carried it out.

In reply to Roberttaylor:

Just so people are aware, Kyloes Out and In and most of Back Bowden are on private land and not Open Access land, so we are climbing at these important crags by the goodwill of the landowner. BBQ's here are a stupid idea.

In reply to JDal:

Indeed, a number of years back I observed BBQ being carried out in a metal supermarket shopping basket (I doubt the supermarket donated this knowingly!!) by a group from one of the local Unis. Basically a basket full of hot coals burning straight on the ground, how intelligent! The fact this was taking place a few metres away from the trees beggars belief.

In reply to odox: Also, Kyloe out is a lot nicer now that the trees are gone.

In reply to Fiona Reid: Pro tip, if you light a fire and turn a metal shopping basket upside down over it it makes a superb grill for sausages.

In reply to Mike_Watson_99:
Unbelievable! If that's the same group then that's really out of order. I guess that's another problem with BBQs, once they are lit they take a long time to cool down for removal.

Another reason for discouraging them around crags.

In reply to odox:

A few litres of water soon cools them down enough for the cool ash to be spread at the base of desirable plants as a fertiliser. May not be as good with paraffin-impregnated / instant light briquettes

In reply to Dave Ing:

Disposable BBQs do a lot of cumulative damage if they are sat directly on the ground, regardless of the fire risk

In reply to Dave Ing:
>to be spread at the base of desirable plants as a fertiliser.

Ha, believe me we don't need any more fertiliser at Kyloe Out - we've only just cleaned up the place from overgrowth a few years ago.