don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of 4x4s and motorbikes going over stanage
but it is a BOAT (byway open to all traffic), so they have a legal right to be their
The highways department of both councils involved have a legal responsibility to maintain it as such and in a reasonable time - March 2015 is not reasonable, so if someone has removed the gate blocking access, then I don't blame them
In reply to rogersavery: So they don't currently have a legal right to be their [sic]. And they still won't be happy if the councils find the money to repair it and make it nice and smooth, no pleasing some people.
> don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of 4x4s and motorbikes going over stanage
The last TRO in force (I think it was due to have expired by now, but can't find anything on t'internet to say whether it has or not) imposed a temporary width restriction of 1.5m, so effectively banned 4x4s but didn't affect motorbikes.
In reply to woolsack: In the eyes of the intolerant it is.
This subject realy annoys me, the off road fraternity only have access to a tiny portion of un metalled areas so those areas are subject to accelerated erosion, if more areas were available there would be less concentrated damage but no, the idea is to reduce the number of places available.
Some climbers are very vocal about stopping off roading due to the damage but don't seem to notice the lack of vegetation and erosion at the base of stannage crag or the polish and damage to the rock from climbing on it.
And don't forget the offroaders have more legal rights to be there than climbers do
How would the everyone here like it if the peak park closed stanage edge claiming it was going to take 2 years to repair the footpaths, and how would you all feel if you also knew that there was a good possibility that it would never reopen
Yes because climbers with their ability to quietly put down perhaps 0.5 horsepower through little ruber shoes with a strong connection to the rock, whilst balancing their human fragility against nature are exactly like off roaders loudly putting down several hundred horsepower through giant rubber wheels designed to grind through nature whilst protected from the world by a big metal box that's spewing forth vile and toxic exhaust fumes.