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Two sheep are stuck on a small ledge just to the right of Golden slipper on Pavey.They look to me like they have been there a while. Who can help?

In reply to thinredline20:
>Who can help?
Dave Birkett.

In reply to aln: Any idea how I can get in touch with him?

In reply to thinredline20:
They were there when we were last there, 8th June! A neighbour advised us to call 101 and they would let mountain rescue know who apparently sometimes rescue sheep as training exercises. 101 could not help. I sent a message to Langdale mountain rescue via their website but maybe they're in no need of training opportunities at present!

In reply to thinredline20: You may be surprised to hear that the RSPCA have rope rescue teams so try giving them a ring.

In reply to thinredline20:
When you come down from the crag, go to a Farm, any Farm (in Langdale) and tell the Farmer who will tell other farmers, and the job will be sorted. Amazingly posting about sheep on a climbing forum is not really that constructive.
You may also find this useful http://tinyurl.com/kg3t7ne .

In reply to thinredline20:

I expect the NPA will know who farms the land - 01539 724555.

In reply to thinredline20:

This is unbelievable:

Myself and two of my friends rescued two sheep from literally that exact ledge on the 17th of June!!! (These will be the two mentioned by Lessworkmoreclimbing).

I can't believe another pair have ended up there, It must be a natural channeling and catching feature or something. Stupid animals.

In reply to thinredline20:

Why didn't you get them off at the time? Not a difficult job to do: abseil in; grab sheep; wrap a spare sling around sheep; abseil to bottom; let sheep go.

ALC

In reply to a lakeland climber:

I did that with a kid goat once, on Tryfan. It put it in my jacked, where it shat and pissed, and took it to the top of the crag. It them ran back down the Severe to finish off munching at the interesting bit of greenery it had found, before being so rudely interrupted.

I've never bothered since & often wonder how 'stuck' sheep, goats, etc really are.

In reply to a lakeland climber:

I presume from your post that that's what you'd do? I know that I absolutely could not be arsed with hanging on an ab rope manhandling a couple of those stupid, stinking animals, which I would expect to cover me in their shit and piss in the process. A baby (human) stuck on a ledge I probably would attend to, but livestock rescue is not what I go out climbing for - their owner can take responsibility for that job.

I hope that doesn't make me a really bad person. I will happily admit to being a bit of a lazy-arse though.

In reply to Jon Stewart:

Yes I would. Lanolin isn't a bad smell

You're on a crag and have the equipment and wherewithal to do it so why not? The farmer is only going to have to get a climber to do it anyway.

Many if not most crags used to have stock proof walls across their top to stop this happening. The sheep start grazing then think "oh there's some good grass/whatever down there" and drop down to a ledge. They then can't get back up so drop down to the next ledge and so on until they run out of ledges.

ALC

In reply to thinredline20: Dave Birkett does do most of the sheep rescue in the lakes, you should have popped in to the Stickle barn or ODG and they would have got the message through,
Personally I just rescue them myself, you can usually tell if they are stuck for a while due to amount of shit and lack of vegetation around them, consistent bleating etc.
last summer rescued one of the side of Pavey and once down, met Dave who had just slogged up to rescue it, apologised to him for his wasted walk....

In reply to a lakeland climber:

Well then, they should learn the basic rules of soloing shouldn't they - don't make irreversible moves unless you know you can complete the route.

In reply to Jon Stewart:


I'll let you do the training

ALC

In reply to thinredline20: Twenty years ago I came across one.sheep on Pavy Ark. We did try to.rescue it but it was in danger of running off the ledge to.get away from us! We ended up leaving it there. When we were at the bottom sorting out for going home the sheep fell off the rock! It must have tried to climb up the gully down which it had fallen. It screamed like a person! And made a horrible sound when it bounced on the ground!!!

In reply to thinredline20: Did it get up and run away?

In reply to BigHairyIan: I've either read, or heard him say at a lecture, that Dave Birkett leaves them until they're starving and then throws some grass/hay down where he wants them to be so he can safely pounce.

In reply to thinredline20:

Maybe if they had used chalk they would have had better friction and escaped the ledge

In reply to Jon Stewart: A good start would be to read "8 out of 10 sheep"

In reply to JDal:
My father in law does this , and their back legs get stuck in his wellies! Game over.

In reply to JDal:

"In reply to BigHairyIan: I've either read, or heard him say at a lecture, that Dave Birkett leaves them until they're starving and then throws some grass/hay down where he wants them to be so he can safely pounce."

Hmmmmmm, that statement is a little troubling, to say the least.

In reply to xplorer: Hahaha, thanks xplorer - made my night!

In reply to a lakeland climber:

abseil in; grab sheep; wrap a spare sling around sheep; abseil to bottom;have a roast :P

In reply to krasavenko:

Don't forget the mint sauce!

In reply to allycat: a bit late now, Birket has rescued them already.

In reply to gethin_allen: I am sure there will be more sheep needing 'rescue'