In reply to steveej:
> As an aside, Quarries which are man made then fine
Not fine, please be careful making sweeping statements like that. Just because YOU think it's fine doesn't make it so. Quarried rock has played an important part in trad history and shouldn't be considered fine for bolting just because it's a quarry.
I find the recent comments about bolting on UKC lately quite worrying. Here are a few things I've read this week (on this forum):
Dirty lines, bolt them.
Not climbed often, bolt it.
Man made (quarry), bolt it.
Difficult top-outs, bolt it.
Rubbish final pitch, bolt it.
Too hard for the majority to climb, bolt it.
No leader protection (see point above), bolt it.
Can't afford trad gear, bolt it.
Trad climbers are stuck in the past, move on. Bolt it.
So whilst your comment may seem innocuous to you, it, like the list above, adds to the growing mind-set of bolting on UKC. Climbs aren't limited to the few because they're not bolted. They're only limited to those with no patience. Bolting takes that choice away.
It won't stop at the odd venue. As those venues become more popular demand for sport routes will increase and pressure on other venues to be bolted will increase also. The arguments listed above won't be arguments any longer, they'll become an accepted attitude towards venues that will lead to them getting bolted also.
This isn't in reference to Gower specifically, but it is in reference to the spate of bolting threads that I've read this week on UKC.