In reply to Jonny2vests:
> Alternatively, If you want to pay a f*cking fortune for some commercially run horror story, catch the hantavirus, get your arse wiped for you with silk toilet role and live in a row of Wendy houses full of fat muggles that think you are weird or part of the tourist attraction, then go with John Hat's suggestion.
Ooh. Interesting. Does it do tricks?
Actually, what I said was "Upper and Lower Pines", not the Wendy Houses. Or the Hotel for that matter, though I will admit after several weeks in the valley I did look at the hotel and wonder what a hot shower was like and whether the second mortgage required to get a room would be worth it
Camp 4 is the cheapest campsite in the valley for a reason. Its the one with the least facilities and the smallest pitches. Some (yourself) may argue that the vibe is worth it. I'll admit that sitting up late round a campfire with like minded folk is a fantastic experience.
However, personally, I prefer Upper/Lower Pines because the pitches are huge, you are in a lovely forest setting, its really peaceful, IT'S FLAT and actually, its nice to talk to non-climbers sometimes given I was talking to climbers all day.
Some of *my* most interesting times in the valley were sitting down around a camp fire with an American Octogenarian and him talking about how he was stationed in England during the war, and his experiences during the war, us all slagging off George Bush (
), and then him and his wife giving us a *huge* pot of stew they had made the next day because "it needs eating up and we're off home tomorrow".
Would be a boring world if we were all the same.