In reply to Graham Hoey:
> Re. The Peak, I'd have to say that the crux of Flaky is so unpleasantly polished that it is probably only worth two stars now (definitely 3 in 1978 when the picture was taken!). I would place both Mortlock's or Apocalypse above Flaky now (when clean!).
Now I'm certainly no expert on Peak lime E4s, not having done a single one, but if the entire of Pembroke can be written off as "generic coastal limestone" and therefore ineligible for "best in UK", surely Peak lime can be dismissed in half the time as "dismal polished roadside chosspile", along with all the other horrible semi-urban inland limestone we have on offer. I'm not saying *all* inland limestones routes are completely shit, just that they're rather shit in the context of Britain's best, which surely revolves around venues like Pabbay, Cornwall, Cloggy, etc?