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I've seen a number of climbing vids recently showing top climbers climbing routes while having fun. What the videos leave out is the fact that another climber has climbed up first and has already had all the fun. To leave this out is understandable as having fun after someone else has had the fun isn't fun and its not the job of the video to teach that climbing should be fun.

However at the crags there seems to be an increasing number of people who now lead routes while having fun having never climbed up from the ground to have the first fun. They're obviously under the illusion that they're having fun but they're not. A climb means climbing up from the ground and being boring as sin about it - though you can downclimb at any time should you feel like you're having fun. If you climb a route after someone having fun then that is better described as a secondary category fun or fun-ish ascent (even if you have fun leading the upper part of the route).

I'm not blaming anyone here. I can see how this misunderstanding has come about. Even at a crag it may appear that good climbers are having fun. That's because usually once a climber has climbed up, had fun and downclimbed they will leave the fun in place for all of their subsequent climbing attempts that day.

For inexperienced climbers confusion on this issue is understandable. Maybe those of us with more experience need to stop being boring and encourage climbers to have fun.

Fun.

In reply to gdnknf:

Mis-understanding a sense of humour.

In reply to gdnknf:
How do you train to have fun? Should I focus more on Power, Strength or Endurance? What specific non-climbing exercise can I do that will make me an insanely better climber instantly?

In reply to gdnknf:

Made me chuckle!

In reply to gdnknf:

Im confused

In reply to mh554:

Original post: http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=602054

Then the parody: http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=602095

In reply to gdnknf:

Brilliant
The original post made me cringe some people eh!

In reply to gdnknf:

Excellent

Red Point, Flash, Onsight, Beta Flash, Ground Up, Yo Yo, Onsight Flash, Dog, .....

I'd rather just go climbing!

In reply to Albachoss:


Given the mantra that the best climber is the one having the most fun, I suspect you have to train very hard.

In reply to gdnknf:

Climbing isn't about having fun. It is about ticking routes.

In reply to ByEek:


Round here its just about ticks.

In reply to The Pylon King:

Now that is a pure form.

In reply to gdnknf:
sorry but your just not specific enough about which type of fun ? for instance I had some type 1 fun at the wall yesterday, followed by some type 2 afterwards. I also had some type 2 this morning and hope to be having some type 3 later. I only understand fun if its given a very specific rating, otherwise its just... well...not fun

In reply to petegunn:
I don't understand most of these terms. Can someone start a new thread for each one and explain in detail how I'm supposed to climb to meet each criteria. Its very important.

In reply to mike123:


You say that, but what grading scheme were you using? We need to know if it was good old proper British fun, or some imported foreign muck.

In reply to gdnknf:

Are you saying sloppy seconds can't be fun?

In reply to JamButty:


Just pick ten random threads from the last few years. Your sample will contain at least two threads that will discuss these terms in exquisite detail.

More important would be a proper classification of fun, and an offical fun/difficulty conversion table, separating technical fun and psychological fun.

CB

In reply to tony:


hum, let me have a think........<thinks for about 3 seconds>

i think......foreign muck.....yep ,definitely imported foreign muck

In reply to gdnknf:

Fun is good but i don't want to watch boring videos of climbers having fun. I want to watch videos of climbers doing dangerous things and being VERY VERY SCARED.

In reply to Furzy Sleight:

I recomend watching a video of someobe redpointin a chop route ground up.
They will doo it in good style, and they will be terrified for their ankles. Or so I am led to believe.

In reply to gdnknf:

Now I am confused, I thought I was having fun but no am not sure because this suggests that my fun is not the right kind of fun. Is fun not fun or do I need to understand secret special way to have fun, and I am required to then grade that fun and log it for others to judge my fun in a knowing way.

Very confused. Is indoor fun the same as outdoor fun? Can I still wear my hat?

In reply to gdnknf:

Can we have a proper grading system?

perhaps F1, F2 F3 or maybe have Funt grades?

Graham

In reply to Graham Hoey:

but how does Funt translate to the Mirth system?

In reply to Steve nevers:

Funt to Mirth is relatively straightforward.

F8 is roughly equivalent to M10c, the letter representing the level of irony.

Difficult to translate to the American LOL system though.

In reply to mountainbagger: American LOL system doesn't include irony or sarcasm which is covered by the DWS grading (dastardly wicked sarcasm).

In reply to gdnknf:

I prefer type 3 fun, am I allowed to call myself a climber or may I only term myself a masochist?