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Gone for good 26 Dec 2015

Im Watching Gene Hackman playing the sheriff in 'unforgiven'. He plays the bad guy seriously well . Jack Nicholson plays a very good bad guy as well ( the Joker in Batman springs to mind as well as the shining ) So who's your favourite bad guy and in what film do they play the part?
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 Chris Harris 26 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Lee van Cleef in anything he appeared in.
 Tom Valentine 26 Dec 2015
In reply to Chris Harris:

At the moment I'll say Michael Biehn in Tombstone as Johnny Ringo but I'll surely change my mind soon....
 Iwan 26 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Meryl Streep as 'that woman'...
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 The Lemming 26 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Sherlock had an excellent bit part on Star Trek. He sure did pull off being a bad boy.

Why is it that in HollywoodLand all the best baddies have stiff upper lip British accents?
In reply to Gone for good:

Gary Goldman. Even when he's hamming it up in 'The Fifth Element'.

"You're despicable, Zorg"
"I know..."
 Tom Valentine 27 Dec 2015
In reply to captain paranoia:

Is Gary Goldman related to Gary Glitter?
In reply to Tom Valentine:

Bloody spell 'checker'...

Yup, just checked, and Google keyboard did it. Bastard thing. Or maybe a Zionist or Goldman Sachs conspiracy...? I note it puts both of those names in, and capitalises them...

Now, who to play the evil mastermind behind the plot...?
 Mooncat 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Javier bardem in No country for old men.
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 MonkeyPuzzle 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Alan Rickman is great in Die Hard and makes Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves watchable after only seven beers.
 Clarence 27 Dec 2015
In reply to MonkeyPuzzle:

Not in a movie but in a Robin Hood - Nicholas Grace as the sherrif and Phillip Jackson as his ecclesiastical brothet were the epitome of Norman bastardry during my formative years.
 BnB 27 Dec 2015
In reply to MonkeyPuzzle:

> Alan Rickman is great in Die Hard.

My favourite tongue in cheek baddie ever.

"You're just a common thief"

No (sneer). I'm an uncommon thief"

 Tom Valentine 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

In spite of derisory comments about Con Air elsewhere I quite like it and Cyrus the Virus is a mean man.
Gone for good 27 Dec 2015
In reply to captain paranoia:

Yes but he then went and played Sirius Black in the Harry Potter films which kind of rules him out.
Gone for good 27 Dec 2015
In reply to MonkeyPuzzle:

> Alan Rickman is great in Die Hard and makes Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves watchable after only seven beers.

And a brilliant Professor Snape in the Harry Potter films although he turned out to be good in the end.
 rossowen 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Mooncat:

Such a great movie.
 Cardi 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

My favourite is Robert Patrick playing the bad guy in Terminator 2.
Gone for good 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Here's a good selection.
http://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/20-greatest-movie-villains#gallery-1

Joe Pesci was brilliant in Goodfellas.
 sbc_10 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Jack palance in Shane.....
In reply to Gone for good:

Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter in The Silence of the Lambs:
" I do wish we could chat longer, but... I'm having an old friend for dinner. Bye. "
 Tom Valentine 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Sir Stefan:

"When the Grey Hair is dead, Magua will eat his heart. Before he dies, Magua will put his children under the knife so the Grey Hair will know his seed is wiped out forever...."


 Ann S 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Laurence Olivier in Marathon Man. Eeek!!!
 ThunderCat 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Mooncat:

> Javier bardem in No country for old men.

I think it's a close tie between this, and Billy Bob Thorton in Fargo...
 Sharp 27 Dec 2015
In reply to MonkeyPuzzle:

> Alan Rickman is great in Die Hard...

He could have been, if it wasn't for the distractingly bad german accent.
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 planetmarshall 27 Dec 2015
In reply to captain paranoia:

> Gary Goldman. Even when he's hamming it up in 'The Fifth Element'.

He's far better in Leon.
 planetmarshall 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Tom Valentine:

> Cyrus the Virus is a mean man.

Lol. Award for most ridiculous name, maybe.

 Babika 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Christoph Waltz in Inglorious Basterds. He has exactly the right smug nastiness for the SS Commander.


Irrelevant fact: apparently Brad Pitt really wanted that role as he spoke fluent German and was very p***ed off it had been cast by the time he came to audition.
 planetmarshall 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

> ...So who's your favourite bad guy and in what film do they play the part?

Although I think the films themselves are massively overrated, Ian McDiarmid is genuinely pretty scary as The Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

 MonkeyPuzzle 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Sharp:

Isn't that just how he speaks? I swear he talks like that in Robin Hood as well.
Removed User 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter.
 Baron Weasel 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Christopher Walken <plays same character in several movies and a crisp advert>
 Ann S 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Removed User:

> Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter.

Yep -that was going to be my original suggestion, till I remembered Sir Larry.
 Tom Last 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

I liked Gary Oldman as Drexl in True Romance.

Gone for good 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:
And how bad was Lex Luther in Superman. Also played by Gene Hackman.
Removed User 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Henry Fonda in 'Once upon a time in the West'. Murders a whole family including the children, kicks a cripples crutches from under him, rapes the heroine and sundry roguish deeds - yes he's bad.
 Tom Valentine 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Removed User:

Or Big Bob in Cape Fear.
I like the De Niro remake but his Max Cady isn't really a patch on the original.
 Tom Valentine 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Removed User:

Leanin' , leanin, safe and secure from all alarms....
Removed User 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Removed Userjess13:

> Henry Fonda in 'Once upon a time in the West'.

Good shout. Klaus Kinski in 'The Great Silence' is similar but arguably worse.
In reply to planetmarshall:

Well, obviously...

That's why I said 'Even hamming it up...'

Leon may well be the last film that actually had me out of my chair at the denouement, mostly down to Oldman's brilliant villain. And Jean Reno's antihero...
 Fredt 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Sideshow Bob.
andymac 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:
Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber in Die Hard,and in other villainous roles

Wins hands down.

A National Treasure.





F#cking twat ipad
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 DerwentDiluted 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Not technically movies, but John Lithgow in Dexter... made my skin crawl.
 Dave the Rave 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:
Jacks got my vote
'Heeerrrss Johnny'
I used to have the poster on the back of my bedroom door. When girlfriends asked if I had any protection I used to point at it and do the here's Johnny bit. Most were one nighters.
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In reply to Mooncat:

> Javier bardem in No country for old men.

A worthy contender and indeed I voted for you however I raise your Bardem with one Hans Landa of Inglorious fame. Charisma and evil in equal measure. The perfect baddie combo.
 wercat 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Gert Froebe

"No Mr Bond, I expect you to die ..."
 Dave the Rave 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Michael Madsen in Reservoir Dogs
The Great White in Jaws
 ThunderCat 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Dave the Rave:

> Jacks got my vote

> 'Heeerrrss Johnny'

> I used to have the poster on the back of my bedroom door. When girlfriends asked if I had any protection I used to point at it and do the here's Johnny bit. Most were one nighters.

Although I wouldn't say he was the sacriest baddie, I think that movie might just tick the box of 'scariest moment in a movie' for me, when she has a look through his manuscript and see's he's typed a thousand or so pages of "All work and no play make Jack a dull boy" over and over again...and you realise just how much he has snapped, and for how long he's been snapped, and that she now realises this and that she's trapped in a hotel in a snowed in mountain with him. Great movie moment that.
 sbc_10 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Dave the Rave:

max von sydow as .......Ming the Merciless ( says it all on the tin )..
 broken spectre 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Pazuzu (The Exorcist)
 FactorXXX 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Feathers McGraw.
 ThunderCat 27 Dec 2015
In reply to broken spectre:

> Pazuzu (The Exorcist)

Hearing Professor Farnsworth shout for his pet demon in Futurama totally robs that movie of any impact


youtube.com/watch?v=YAw3Xr8r6TY&
 Dave the Rave 27 Dec 2015
In reply to ThunderCat:
> Although I wouldn't say he was the sacriest baddie, I think that movie might just tick the box of 'scariest moment in a movie' for me, when she has a look through his manuscript and see's he's typed a thousand or so pages of "All work and no play make Jack a dull boy" over and over again...and you realise just how much he has snapped, and for how long he's been snapped, and that she now realises this and that she's trapped in a hotel in a snowed in mountain with him. Great movie moment that.
Indeed it was. I liked the bar scene, where he was talking with the ghosts. youtube.com/watch?v=HJVVGzEbJC0&
Redrum, redrum, redrum!
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 nathan79 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

No mention of Dirty Harry's weasely antagonist Scorpio yet?!
 ThunderCat 27 Dec 2015
In reply to Dave the Rave:

Great scene.

"Little slow tonight, aint it"?

In reply to Gone for good:

Let's not forget the original Terminator and Arnie's finest moment.
 Morty 28 Dec 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

> Let's not forget the original Terminator and Arnie's finest moment.

Agreed, we should remember him in The Terminator, and his finest moment in the role of 'Dutch' in the wonderful film Predator.
redsonja 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Ed Harris as General Hummel in The Rock
Gone for good 28 Dec 2015
In reply to redsonja:

What about Nurse Ratched in One flew over the cuckoos nest. She was a particularly nasty character. Apparently Louise Fletcher, who played the part, said she can't watch the film because the character she played was so inhumane.
 deepsoup 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Good call. I was just thinking there seems to be a shortage of good female villains.
I'll nominate Lena Headey's Ma-Ma in Dredd.
 colin8ll 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Yul Brynner in WestWorld gets my vote.
 alan moore 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Darth Vader's the best obviously but also,

Angel Eyes in the Good the Bad and the Ugly

Eric Stalla, Ferrari driver in Le Mans.
Removed User 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

How about Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet. I find him almost unwatchable.
Removed User 28 Dec 2015
In reply to colin8ll:

great performance, but being a rogue cyborg, can we attribute evil to him?
 wilkie14c 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Ben Kingsley in sexy beast
Rigid Raider 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Javier Bardem as Anton Chigurgh in No Country for Old Men. Terrifyingly menacing in the gas station scene.
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Removed User 28 Dec 2015
In reply to wilkie14c:

thought that performance was frankly risible-channeling "Derek and Clive".
Removed User 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Removed Userena sharples:

He based the character on his Grandmother. I thought it was a brilliant performance.
Gone for good 28 Dec 2015
In reply to Removed User:

> He based the character on his Grandmother. I thought it was a brilliant performance.
So did I. Proper scary stuff. I know he frightened the life out of me!
 Rob Exile Ward 29 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Cruella De Vil or the Wicked Step Mother in Sleeping Beauty.
 IM 29 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Robert Helpmann as the child catcher in 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang', takes creepy to a whole new level...

youtube.com/watch?v=zUnhfvGdmmw&

 colinakmc 29 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good: another vote for Billy Bob Thornton in the first series of Fargo. So wonderfully manipulative....

In reply to Rigid Raider:

> Javier Bardem as Anton Chigurgh in No Country for Old Men. Terrifyingly menacing in the gas station scene.

He gets a lot of support on here, and in general, but I didnt 'get' the character.

My understanding of NCFOM was that tommy lee jones' decision to quit was due to his realisation on the banality of evil, and its presence everywhere.

Barden as an unkillable teminator-esque supervillain seemed to directly work against the central premise of the film

Unless I've completely mis-read it...
 Ian W 29 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

I'd probably go for Jack Nicholson, for the above but also for his performance in "A Few Good Men".
 ripper 29 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Surprised it's taken so long for no-one to mention Bruno Ganz as Hitler in Downfall.
 Simon4 29 Dec 2015
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:

> My understanding of NCFOM was that tommy lee jones' decision to quit was due to his realisation on the banality of evil, and its presence everywhere.

> Unless I've completely mis-read it...

Somewhat.

It was a crap film, simultaneously pretentious and vacuous, sold on the basis of lots of fairly realistic violence (if totally unrealistic in the almost complete absence of official response to this ongoing massacre), badly edited, with a wandering story line that didn't really go anywhere, but encouraged some people to think they were being "intellectual" by approving of it, while others just liked the violent scenes.
Removed User 29 Dec 2015
In reply to redsonja:

> Ed Harris as General Hummel in The Rock

He wasn't really scary, though, or even that much of a baddie in the end.

His 'A History of Violence' turn might be a better choice.
 Dave Garnett 29 Dec 2015
In reply to FactorXXX:

> Feathers McGraw.

I raise you Boris the Animal.

Actually I was really surprised when I looked up who played him - Jermaine Clement out of Flight of the Conchords. Not a bad obligatory evil English accent, for a Kiwi.
 Flinticus 29 Dec 2015
In reply to deepsoup:

> Good call. I was just thinking there seems to be a shortage of good female villains.

> I'll nominate Lena Headey's Ma-Ma in Dredd.

Also Kathy Bates' Annie Wilkes in Misery

There's also Mrs Carmody in The Mist, played by Marcia Gay Harden (though more a demented character)

Not forgetting the Evil Queen from Snow White, voiced by Lucille La Verne
 Rich W Parker 29 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Not sure if this character really qualifies as a baddie, but Daniel Plainview is pretty grim, and flat-out mental at the end.
 Pekkie 29 Dec 2015
In reply to MonkeyPuzzle:

> Alan Rickman is great in Die Hard and makes Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves watchable after only seven beers.

After one bit of really evil baddery he turns to a subordinate and whispers 'I had a terrible childhood you know. I'll tell you about it some time.'
 MonkeyPuzzle 30 Dec 2015
In reply to Pekkie:

I really wanted to shout"...and cancel Christmas!" a few days ago.
 Fredt 30 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Willoughby Goddard as Landburgher Gessler, in the '60s TV series 'William Tell'. Anyone who knows what I'm on about will agree.

(The outdoor filming was around Llyn Padarn and Llanberis, interesting article here; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_William_Tell
 nufkin 30 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

> Jack Nicholson plays a very good bad guy as well ( the Joker in Batman springs to mind

Heath Ledger's effort was good too (and doesn't seem to have had a mention yet).

I agree BBT in the Fargo series was excellent at being bad. Also, if we're extending to series, and for slightly more realistic badness, Marlo off The Wire is very scary (also Idris 'loofa' Elba, but somehow not quite so chilling)
 winhill 30 Dec 2015
In reply to Gone for good:

Agatha Trunchbull

Matilda
In reply to Gone for good:

Christopher Lloyd as Judge Doom in 'Who framed Roger Rabbit?'...


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