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Imagine a short-sleeved Eclipse or R1 without the hood. What an excellent alternative winter base layer it would make to a mesh vest/tee under breathable insulation like the Nano Air or Rab Strata.

Does such a garment already exist? Perhaps in a lighter weight of grid fleece?

In reply to BnB:

Try these folk http://www.brynje-shop.com/super-thermo-c12

In reply to Mountain Llama:
I love the Brynje stuff and have a couple already but the OP states "alternative to mesh"!!

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In reply to BnB:

Think these guys make or did make one. http://melanzana.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/22

In reply to JayPee630:

Impressed with your recollection but sadly it seems no more.

It's a limited market I guess but I reckon we'd be looking at a perfect combination for staying warm (but not TOO warm) and dry at all times.

Time to launch my own range I guess

In reply to BnB:

I picked up a Mammut shirt matching that description, from Tk Maxx. Absolutely no idea of the model name, but it's a short sleeved, deep zipped power grid shirt.
Great under a Rab Strata.

In reply to 2powern:

That's very helpful of you. But it can't have been a bestseller as they don't seem to do one now from a look at their website. What a pity.

In reply to BnB:
http://www.trekkinn.com/outdoor-mountain/mammut-zip-atacazo-t-shirt/1359263...

That's pretty much what I have, except the sleeves on mine reach to the bottom of the biceps

In reply to 2powern:

That looks rather like the Mammut W's Cotoleft T I saw in TKM in 2014 (2014/06/28 according to the photo...).

To the OP: buy a l/s shirt and take it to your high street sewist, and have then trim & hem the sleeves. 10 minute job.

In reply to 2powern:

Awesome thanks. I'll get Googling.

In reply to captain paranoia:

What makes you think I couldn't sew it myself?



You're right. I can't

In reply to BnB:

Doesn't make much sense to me - you lose a lot of heat from your forearms, cold forearms = hot aches

In reply to iksander:

Never worn a gilet then? The point might well be to be able to lose heat, or at least regulate body temp efficiently.

In reply to BnB:

One of those with those fleece tshirt things you're after, worn with those running sleeve things, and both worn with a top of light insulation of Alpha but with quite a weatherproof outer might be a very good combination!

In reply to iksander:


I don't typically get hot aches. And with puffy insulation on my arms (Nano Air) under a softshell my arms don't need any more warming.

In reply to JayPee630:


Microgrid short-sleeved tee shirt base layer + Nano Air + Powershield Pro sofshell + belay jacket = ready for anything

As it is, the Brynje mesh will be tomorrow's base layer of choice but it's not very flexible if I need to strip off the midlayer. It requires a spare modesty layer!!

In reply to JayPee630:


No, but I do have a body warmer - boom tish Joking aside, you can regulate with a body warmer because you can doff or don it easily. Not so a baselayer.

>Microgrid short-sleeved tee shirt base layer + Nano Air + Powershield Pro sofshell + belay jacket = ready for anything

Wow, personally I'd be roasting in that lot on a typical walk in (even minus belay jacket)

>As it is, the Brynje mesh will be tomorrow's base layer of choice but it's not very flexible if I need to strip off the midlayer. It requires a spare modesty layer!!

No need for modesty with Brynje and a windshirt as you're unlikely to overheat in the first place. And as a Scandinavian, I'm proud to bear my Brynje anyway

(plus I'm too old to worry about being a laughing stock any more)

In reply to iksander:



Errr, who said anything about wearing everything at all times?

Baselayer and Nano Air for walk-in. Very breathable, very comfortable. Windshirt not required (except for modesty). Sofshell goes on with the gear. Belay jacket as and when required.