In reply to Tigger:
> a low to mid E3 grade would give a representation of what to expect.
Even with the Phlegathoa start it's still more like E3.
it doesn't feel technical for the grade just bold.
It'll soon start feeling technical when you get higher up
the next bit is pretty tough.
Bare in mind that this route is a bit of a 'filler in' and I'd be surprised if it gets 5 ascents a year. The grades on these types of routes are quite often a grade out.