In reply to GrahamD:
> Apart from Ingurland last year you mean ?
oh no; humiliating as that abject exercise in underachievement was, iceland are a decent side, and are ranked above holland and sweden at present
this is much worse. even being in the 1st round of qualifying for the Europa league is bad enough. being dumped out of it by the 4th best side in Europe's 46th best league really is the absolute zero of footballing failure....