In reply to BrendanO:
> Wonder if that rule is "Different In Scotland"...or as another respondent said, is just fobbing you off.
> Routesetting set-up (2 lines, 2 devices so you are backed up, etc) wasn't taught in CWA. However, I was (pre-CWA Assessment) shown this at a wall I shadowed at, then got a go setting there. Subsequently, I have set at another wall with a brief recap to check I knew...no certification.
> Or maybe I'm in big trouble if it all goes HMS-shaped?
As far as I know there is no recognised qual for routesetting, as far as the ABC is concerned. There is nothing stopping any random person doing it. But the same goes for CWA. It isn't actually necessary, and although the industry standard NGB award, you don't actually need it.
But then you look at corporate health and safety and insurance. Wall owners would be mad to employ people without a piece of paper that says they are capable and competent. But try telling the old school setters they need to now sit a course to tell them how to properly do what they've done professionally for god knows how long.
There is, however the route setting association, who are aiming to change this way of thinking and doing, and are succeeding, as far as I know. And too right they should be. I've seen and heard of horrendous practice from route setters, who I'm surprised have yet to kill themselves.
The problem is, just because you have a piece of paper that says you can, doesn't mean you're worth much as a setter. I've seen plenty holding CWA and SPA whom I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw.
Anyhow, good luck finding volunteers to not only qual themselves up, but also insure themselves for the sake of setting a few naff routes.
IMO you need to vote with your feet and climb elsewhere. End of the day, walls sell a product and that product is routes. You wouldn't go to tesco and buy rotten apples would you?