In reply to Climber_Bill:
> Every training course, and most assessments, I took part in always included an element of sport climbing and the ethics of and correct use of bolts, even if just as a discussion and wasn't specifically part of the course.
I'd like to say that was true on all the courses I've delivered and attended, unfortunately it isn't.
As much as I'd like to decide exactly what to instruct and how to deliver it, unless working with private clients I generally can't.
As an employee, I instruct exactly what I am paid to instruct and that generally means sticking to a course syllabus and not making it up as I go along - regardless of whether I think the syllabus is correct.
Also, in far too many cases, even delivering the main safety related objectives can be hard due to time constraints so students' learning capacity is already maxed out. So, whilst I will certainly have discussed with numerous students not to top-rope through lower-offs, I also know that without having spent a practical session at a sport crag reinforcing the point, they won't really have taken it on board.
> Perhaps that was because of the background of the candidates or the location of the courses.
That may be the case.
Most of the SPA and Military qualification courses I've been involved with have been N Wales or Peak based.
> Of course you are right that sport climbing is not part of the various syllabuses and whether it should be is of much debate.
TBH, that's my main point. The good efforts of yourself and many other instructors in promoting sport climbing are rather undermined by the current state of affairs...
> If they haven't been trained or assessed specifically in sport climbing, then perhaps they shouldn't be running commercial sessions in a sport climbing area.
I completely agree.
I would be very surprised if all those instructing climbing groups in Dorset were working strictly 'within remit'.
Although with the exception of those operating with children under an ALAA licence there is not much to stop them.
However, that is a whole other discussion and I don't think anyone really wants more regulation...