In reply to Ramblin dave:
> We're hoping to avoid lumping axes and spikes down there - are there sensible routes on and off the Vignemale peaks that avoid the glacier?<
Haven't been for many years and glaciers may have changed. However crampons were unnecessary, a spiked walking pole would be sufficient for the Vignemale glacier IMHO, but personally I'd take one of the cheap featherweight axes now available. I think the Vignemale glacier is the obvious way to go and is not difficult, there were a few seracs above the path at one point.
Voie normale on P Longue already recommended. On an 'off' day my mate did a route up the Petit V from Ref Oulettes de G while I did a good scramble along the ridge above the right side (looking up) of the Gaube valley descending near the lake...it wasn't in the Guide Ollivier but there were one or two pegs.
Later did the original Route de Prince de Moskowa up Grande V from Ref O d G returning via V glacier with an unfit 63 year old dad over 2 days, staying at a cabane on the Spanish side, some scrambling.
> I suspect that getting to Sarradets is either a bit much of a hike .......from Cauterets.
Quite correct. Good area though.