/ Sub £200 winter expedition tents

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purplemonkeyelephant - on 13 Oct 2017
So planning a winter trip on a budget. Needs to be geodesic, and hold up to low temps/high winds (xc skiing in the arctic).

Shortlist:

Simond Makalu: https://www.simond.com/makalu-s2-tent-id_8319673

Pros- Cheap, has a snowskirt, lightweight.
Cons- small interior. Only semi-geodesic.

Berghaus Grampian 2: https://www.blacks.co.uk/equipment/246609-berghaus-grampian-2-person-tent-dark-green.html

Pros- with sale even cheaper than Simond. Fully geodesic.. Slightly larger too (10cm).
Cons - doesn't have a snowskirt. 1kg heavier!!

Any other suggestions?
davidbeynon on 13 Oct 2017
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:
I'll sell you a second hand ortik jetstream 2 in good nick apart from one replacement pole for a hundred.

Pros: snowskirt, fully geodesic, fairly bombproof.
Cons: Can't reasonably be described as light, hard to get spares as company seems to have disappeared.
Post edited at 14:18
purplemonkeyelephant - on 14 Oct 2017
In reply to davidbeynon:

Interesting tent design! Appreciate the offer but this is one of those things I'd kinda prefer new. Out of curiosity, how did you break the pole?
davidbeynon on 14 Oct 2017
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

It was the standard fatigue failure and split at one of the joints that all aluminium poles suffer from. Unfortunately the company had vanished and getting a spare section was difficult - 20 inch dac featherlite poles aren't common on european tents.

It also turned out that DAC have very slightly changed the inner radius of their 8.84mm featherlite pole sections so I had to get an ultra quasar pole and cut to length rather than just buy a single section. On the plus side it left me with lots of spares for the other poles.

The main reason I am considering letting it go is that I have a toddler and no real chance of going on the sort of trips that require a geodesic bomb shelter for the next few years. My camping is moving in the direction of tipis and civilised family sites with cake shops.
Dr.S at work - on 14 Oct 2017
In reply to davidbeynon:
> My camping is moving in the direction of tipis and civilised family sites with cake shops.

The horror, the horror.........
purplemonkeyelephant - on 14 Oct 2017
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

http://www.huskyeu.eu/extreme-tent-fighter-3-4-red-723

Anyone tried Husky tents? This breaks my budget by £50 but looks pretty nice. Heavy though but tonnes of room... Ahh someone please invent the perfect tent so I don't have to make pros and cons lists!!
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

Husky bump
Andypeak - on 16:14 Mon
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

I've used the Simond one. Was cert impressed. They also do a 3 man fully geodesic one.
The berghaus one is just a blacks tent with a berghaus badge stuck on it.
captain paranoia - on 20:17 Mon
In reply to Andypeak:

> The berghaus one is just a blacks tent with a berghaus badge stuck on it.

Agreed. I have the Blacks Octane 3 tunnel tent. There's a Berghaus branded one that's almost identical.

It's not a bad tent, though; decent enough design, materials & build. I'd prefer that it had a rear vent to allow a through-flow of air. I had my doubts about the 'perpendicular style' pole hoops, as I'm sure pre-bent sections must be weaker (stress concentrating points).

https://m.blacks.co.uk/product/yellow-blacks-octane-3-man-tent/112872/
https://www.blacks.co.uk/equipment/tents-camping/tents/3-person-tents/br:berghaus/tsh:tunnel/
In reply to captain paranoia:

I was looking at that tent when deciding between tunnel/geodesic, the porch looks awesome for cooking in.

Regarding the two brands - it is interesting what covering up the logo with your finger when looking at the product does to your brain when browsing products.
captain paranoia - on 23:53 Mon
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

> the porch looks awesome for cooking in.

Storage, wet kit and cooking; yes, it's great. I wouldn't fancy sleeping 3 in it, though; I use it as a spacious solo tent for DofE supervision and camping trips.
In reply to Andypeak:

Can I ask what conditions you used the Simond in? ie did it get tested? Thanks
Andypeak - on 06:53 Wed
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

Not what it is designed for. Held up to strong wind and rain pretty good though
tripehound - on 11:21 Wed
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

Would imagine condensation in the Simond an issue with those valances.
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:

Found the Husky Fighter for a really good price so ordered that. It's a little heavier, but has way more room inside and is fully geodesic.

Will report back on it's functionality!
NaCl - on 07:31 Thu
In reply to purplemonkeyelephant:
Yeah please do. Have been following this thread with a mind to buying a new tent so would be interested in your thoughts about the husky as it does look good. What was the cost in the end of I may ask?
Post edited at 07:32
In reply to NaCl:

https://m.alza.co.uk/sport/husky-fighter-3-4-green-d4847128.htm

Got it here for around £190 delivered. I don't know the company but it's paid via PayPal so hopefully I'm covered either way.

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