In reply to UKC News:
I really admire the guy's honesty regarding the grade of the route. Seems like all these routes need to get repeated by climbers who are more familiar with this level of difficulty before the grades can be properly established. Even Rouhling has very limited experience of routes of this grade. Of established routes I think he's done Bain de Sang at 8c+/9a but that sounds like a very specialised kind of route anyway. Dai Komada repeated one of Fred's routes but I don't know what, if anything, he had to say about it.
Baptiste Dherbilly has repeated Fred Rouhling's Salamandre, 9a+, at the Double Cache crag, Haute-Savoie, France.
