/ Guidance for new school climbing wall needed

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L toddR - on 09 Nov 2017
Hi,

My school have just had a new indoor climbing wall installed and I'm looking for advice how we can get the best of this great new feature.

Can anyone help pointing us in the right direction?

Thanks

Todd
Fraser on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

Going out on a limb here but ... maybe get some kids to climb on it? ;-)

More seriously, are you wanting to get a route setter in to set a number of routes or are you asking about training regimes to give kids, forming a club or what? I'm not quite clear on what sort of answers you're expecting.
steve taylor - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

Speak to the BMC Climbing Walls officer.
Wil Treasure - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

Iain Mackenzie would be a good person to speak to. http://www.iainmckenzie.co.uk
Trangia on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

Get in touch with local climbing clubs with a view to opening it in the evenings to create income for the school?
AlanLittle - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:
A "new school" climbing wall you say?

So: lots of volumes & big round blobby holds in bright colours. Compression, dynos and precarious sloper shuffling, nae crimping. That sort of thing?
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L Mick Bradshaw - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

Todd
Depending on whereabouts in the country you are, you may have an outdoor education adviser that could help with this. Have a look on oeap.info - 'find an adviser' should be on the home page or drop me a line and I'll try and help.
The BMC also have their 'Fundamentals' course that might be worth checking out.
Cheers
Mick
earlsdonwhu - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

How big is it?
What age kids?

Will it be used within PE lessons or just extra -curricular use?
Who will staff it?
stp - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

Good routesetting is absolutely key. You can have the best structured wall in the country but if the routesetting is sh*t the wall be too.
Mark Kemball - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to stp:

> Good routesetting is absolutely key.

This, BUT, you need to set with your pupils in mind, setting at a grades that will challenge them but are achievable. When I ran my school climbing club, I found anything harder than about 6a was too much for most of them. Once they get more experience you may find you can set harder. It's quite challenging trying to set interesting routes in the lower grades.
bouldery bits - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to AlanLittle:

> A "new school" climbing wall you say?

> So: lots of volumes & big round blobby holds in bright colours. Compression, dynos and precarious sloper shuffling, nae crimping. That sort of thing?

You forget the 'too hip for you' soundtrack.
Robert Durran - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

> Can anyone help pointing us in the right direction?

Up?
Martin Hore - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to Mick Bradshaw:

Given you a like Mick.

Good to see a plug for my old profession.

Martin
AlH - on 09 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:

Engage with NICAS more details specifically for Schools here: http://www.nicas.co.uk/schools-clubs-and-groups

Become an "Advised" Member of the Association of British Climbing Walls for oodles of support, advice and access to a huge collection of wall specific experience: https://www.abcwalls.co.uk/about/joining-the-abc/

Consider employing a Technical Advisor. A good starting place would be a member of the Association of Mountaineering Instructors BUT ensure that you engage with one who has extensive first hand experience of climbing walls. http://www.mountain-training.org/associations/ami (I do a lot of this sort of work but am based in Scotland- happy to offer help contacting someone suitable and more local if you wish to PM me).

Attend BMC FUNdamentals 1 and 2. Physical Training 1 and the Coaching Children Workshop are also highly relevant to you. http://www.mountain-training.org/associations/ami

Think about putting relevant staff through the Foundation Coach Award. http://www.mountain-training.org/climbing/awards/coaching-scheme

The BMC Climbing Wall Manual is still a relevant and useful document for managing walls of all types: https://www.thebmc.co.uk/the-bmc-climbing-wall-manual there are also some small good practise notices here: https://www.thebmc.co.uk/information-for-wall-managers?s=1

All the best, Al
Toerag - on 10 Nov 2017
In reply to Trangia:

> Get in touch with local climbing clubs with a view to opening it in the evenings to create income for the school?

^^ this is what our club do, it works well. Various other parts of the school are used in the evenings for nightschool, sports clubs etc. so they don't have to pay a caretaker extra for opening up 'cos he's already there.
Tomtom - on 11 Nov 2017
In reply to toddR:
Lots of important factors involved,
Safety and Maintainance, routesetting, technical advice, staff training etc
Contact Nate at 'climbing wall services' for all of the above
Iain McKenzie - on 13 Nov 2017
In reply to Wil Treasure:

Cheers Will, hoping all is good?

Todd, if you want to pop me through an email to iain@nicas.co.uk I can give you lots of info on NICAS and NIBAS and how to set up a kids club, Al has also posted a fair bit of info aswell.

Cheers.

Iain

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