/ Interesting type of cam

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GarethSL on 01 Dec 2017
Popped up on the other-other channel.

The Kalquin "El Joker"(?)

These look very interesting, bizarre even. Anybody had a hands on?

http://yosemiteclimbing.es/material-escalada/kalquin/

http://kalquin.com/
HeMa on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to GarethSL:

Looks interesting... and by the looks of it, rather prone on gettin' stuck.

Though, were I to climb mostly on limestone, I might be interested. But as I dominantly climb on granite, for larger sizes Dragons/C4s are good enough and Totem basics + C3 + Metolius Masters is perfect on ringlocks and smaller.
Fredt on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to GarethSL:

Looks like the biggest 'difference' is that you can separate the load bearing element from the placement mechanism, so the load can pull in a different direction to the stem.
Though it's not clear how you separate them, or whether they will separate under load.
davidbeynon on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to Fredt:

Looks like a fairly flimsy clip to keep them together, so separating at awkward times is pretty inevitable.

I'm not sure exactly what problem it is intended to solve really.
Ciro - on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to davidbeynon:

> Looks like a fairly flimsy clip to keep them together, so separating at awkward times is pretty inevitable.

> I'm not sure exactly what problem it is intended to solve really.

Watch the video on their website - they show it preventing the cam from walking. As you say it might turn out to be a bit faffy if it separates on your harness while climbing and catches on stuff, but looks like a neat idea
Jimbo C - on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to GarethSL:

I'm not sure if it's intended to be mainly for clean aid or for use as a runner on lead. My first thought was that it does not look like it has a constant camming angle. Very interesting...
gd303uk - on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to GarethSL:

Looks very similar to the Trango Max Cam, offset cam angle makes for wider range I think.
Link to the UKC Max Cam review:
https://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=387
Xharlie on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to davidbeynon:

I don't understand.

The physical principle behind cams relies on the force being directed relative to the axle and lobes of the cam so exactly what does this separation achieve? If the separated stem and lobes of the cam are not aligned with the direction of load, surely the cam is less a cam and more of a friction device?

Personally, simpler can only be better.
Paz - on 01 Dec 2017
It's great to see new types of in-situ fixed equipment being developed. Coming Soon! To a crag near you!


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