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Wild Food Club - Autumn 2018

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 richprideaux 31 Aug 2018

So, how's your foraging and wild-food-scrabbling going this year?

I'm finding a lot more fungi than usual in NE Wales and I can't go outside without tripping over Ceps at the moment.

I've also got a few kgs of Bilberries in the freezer - I need to nip down to Lidl for some cheap vodka to make use of them all!

Lots of blackberries still around, and the Rowan berries are looking good.

How about you?

 Mike Peacock 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Here (Sweden) it's been an amazing few weeks for Ceps. They're everywhere! Looking good for sloes and lingonberries, but not great for blueberries/bilberries at all. The funnel chanterelle season should start soon - I got some great hauls last autumn:
https://twitter.com/MikePeacock86/status/931919408557121536
https://twitter.com/MikePeacock86/status/909071232976539648

mick taylor 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

49 pounds blackberries.  Most will be turned into wine (with some elderberries and damsons in various ratios).

Try blackberry whiskey.  I have, with 2 bottles whiskey.  Started last year, strained the other month.  Already incredibly brilliant.  I then squished the blackberries through a sieve and have a tub of whiskey/blackberry puree in the freezer ready for a snazzy trifle (don't think this would work with vodka).

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OP richprideaux 31 Aug 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

I've ended up taking my camera out on every dog walk now - I keep coming across prize specimens that'll be perfect for future guidebooks etc

OP richprideaux 31 Aug 2018
In reply to mick taylor:

I've tried it before - it works really well. I've also found that fruit liqueur concoctions work equally well with cheap alcohol as they do with expensive stuff, which certainly encourages experimentation.

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 Rampikino 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Just waiting for the damsons as they are not quite ready yet...

 Mike Peacock 31 Aug 2018
In reply to mick taylor:

I usually end up turning my gin-soaked sloes into chocolates by combining them with metled choc, almonds, and sloe gin, but that sounds a good idea too.

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 subtle 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

I had to check google as to what to do with rowan berries - I thank you for that.

(always under the impression they were poisonous, only when uncooked it has now been revealed to me)

mick taylor 31 Aug 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

Yummmm....  I have 1 demijohn of damson and sloe vodka and 1/2 demijohn of sloe gin, both ready to strain, and like you idea for the chocolates, and will add pureed dates for more umptiousness(?).  Tell you what, the concoction will be frozen and turned into truffles in December - that's half my xmas pressies sorted !!

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mick taylor 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

To All:  anyone done any Rose Hip stuff, either wine or infusion?  I've read they can be very hairy and pippy, but fancy a bash.

Also, a few years back I made a dandelion wine.  My expert bro-in-law said it had a taste of sherry and, since it was already 15.5%, added the minimum required brandy to reach 20%, added some French oak chips, left for 12 months and BINGO!!!!  

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mick taylor 31 Aug 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

And to all you sloe-giners out there, think about adding few drops of almond essence as this enhances the almondeyness that naturally comes from the sloe stone.

OP richprideaux 31 Aug 2018
In reply to Rampikino:

 

> Just waiting for the damsons as they are not quite ready yet...

 

Seems like a bumper crop of those too.

OP richprideaux 31 Aug 2018
In reply to subtle:

> (always under the impression they were poisonous, only when uncooked it has now been revealed to me)

A few people have said that to me - including a confusion with elderberries and the cyanide-inducing glycosides therein

OP richprideaux 31 Aug 2018
In reply to mick taylor:

> And to all you sloe-giners out there, think about adding few drops of almond essence as this enhances the almondeyness that naturally comes from the sloe stone.

I've tried it with dried Meadowsweet, ground down then lightly roasted. Worked out OK.

 Jon Greengrass 31 Aug 2018
In reply to subtle:

> Rowan berries (always under the impression they were poisonous, only when uncooked it has now been revealed to me)

I was under the impression that they were inedible ( foul tasting) ( Ray Mears and Gordon Hillman's book Wild Food)  and not worth the bother. Can they be made into something tasty? 

 

 Mike Peacock 31 Aug 2018
In reply to mick taylor:

I've done rose hip wine before. One batch was really good. The other batch was bottled a bit early and exploded...

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OP richprideaux 31 Aug 2018
In reply to Jon Greengrass:

> I was under the impression that they were inedible ( foul tasting) ( Ray Mears and Gordon Hillman's book Wild Food)  and not worth the bother. Can they be made into something tasty? 

Rowan Berry Jelly. With the addition of Crab Apples it's pretty good - I make/use it with game meats.

 Lemony 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Got some crabapple jelly on the go at the moment after we found the most overladen tree I've ever seen. Annoyingly I screwed up straining it and it's gone cloudy but it'll still taste good.

 cander 31 Aug 2018
In reply to mick taylor:

It’s a cracking year for sloes - it’s going to be a gallon or two of sloe gin - none of its for Christmas presents though - it’s for us

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 Bulls Crack 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

I've just  been picking mulberries from a tree in town (after checking with the presumed owner)  Absolute sods to pick. The 'crop' ripens heterogeneously all over the tree, hidden by leaves and hard to reach! 

 

However the jam can be brilliant and is hard to get hold of otherwise - relatively few trees. 

 1234None 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Lots of girolles (catherellus cibarius) and a few ceps here and there in Correze, France.   This is despite it being incredibly dry.  I am taking this as further evidence that the most important factor for a major mycelial fruiting is a sudden change in temperature, rather than just rain.    It went from minimum overnight temps of 25C to 12-13C suddenly here and about a week later the mushrooms are there, despite very little rain for months.  Apart from that wild plums, blackberries and some other mushroom species.  It has been the first year I have eaten laetiporus sulphureus (chicken of the woods) and the agrocybe aegerita - both excellent.  We have also tried out a few other boletes, including neoboletus luridiformis - again excellent - always firm and never maggot-infested like some ceps.

 

 Rampikino 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

They are prevalent round here. I’m waiting with baited breath...

 marsbar 31 Aug 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Lots of sloes.  Made chutney with them (and apples and onions)  as I already have loads.of sloe gin.  Used a mix of the removed sloes.from the gin and the fresh ones.  Pita to stone them!

Used Delia's damson recipe.  Ready in a few weeks so hope it's good.  

Still got loads of jam left from last year (blackberry and elderberry) so might not make any this year.  

There have apparently been people using raw elderberries in smoothies and getting quite ill, so I will mention that this isn't a good idea.  Cooked is fine.  

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 marsbar 31 Aug 2018
In reply to subtle:

Rowan Jelly is a very traditional thing to have with meat I think.  More of a UK thing than cranberry sauce.  

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 Rampikino 01 Sep 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Out on my evening cross country run today I discovered a new bumper sloe crop up one of the lanes. Also tried a couple of damsons - still a little tart but not far off.

I also found some large sloes and they confused me.  Most sloes I have come across have been like blueberries in size.  These ones were halfway to a damson - like small marbles and soft/sweet.  Could they be something else?  Colour etc was right for sloe, but size was odd.

 Mike Peacock 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Rampikino:

I find sloes can really vary in size - what you describe doesn't sound unreasonably large. Or maybe they were bullaces?

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 Mike Peacock 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

Ah, only just noticed you described them as sweet. If they don't suck the moisture out of your mouth they're almost certainly not sloes. So my guess is bullace. Lots of stuff online about sloes vs bullaces, eg http://www.sloe.biz/pip/viewtopic.php?t=269

 marsbar 02 Sep 2018
In reply to subtle:

I've found my WI cookbook, it's older than me.  

It has a recipe for Rowan or Mountain Ash Jelly if anyone wants it.  

There are quite a few chutney and preserve  recipes too.  

The one that says "any fruit except strawberries" might be useful. 

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 profitofdoom 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

> I find sloes can really vary in size

It is a sloe day on UKC

 Dr.S at work 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

Are folk picking the sloes yet? It feels like it will be a while to first frost!

 marsbar 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Dr.S at work:

I shoved them in the freezer for a week if that helps..

 the sheep 02 Sep 2018
In reply to marsbar:

Took the dog for a walk this afternoon and found a wild hop plant in a hedge. Going to have to have a bash at homebrew I feel ????

 

 stonejumper 02 Sep 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

12 jars of Damson chutney made for xmas today and also a apple and blackberry crumble all picked this morning.

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 Mike Peacock 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Dr.S at work:

> Are folk picking the sloes yet? It feels like it will be a while to first frost!


Always. I know there are arguments for letting the season go on a while before picking, but I pick them as soon as they look good and throw them in the freezer. The sloe gin always tastes good...

 cander 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Dr.S at work:

We never leave them for the first frost as they tend to get attacked by insects and you end up loosing half the harvest. marsbar is right about shoving them in the freezer.

 Rampikino 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

Thanks Mike - no thorns on the Bush. Bullaces makes sense. Got about 4kg!

So for sloes, how should they taste when you pick them?

 Mike-W-99 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Dr.S at work:

> Are folk picking the sloes yet? It feels like it will be a while to first frost!

We picked enough for two batches of gin the other week in Edinburgh. Sitting in the freezer now.

 Mike-W-99 02 Sep 2018
In reply to the sheep:

> Took the dog for a walk this afternoon and found a wild hop plant in a hedge. Going to have to have a bash at homebrew I feel ????

Could be a bit random as to what you found but worth a shot.

I've Wye Challenger growing in the garden(on purpose)

 Mike-W-99 02 Sep 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Amazing year for ceps up here in east lothian(or the commonly confused Pine Bolete which is practically identical)

I think we are fully stocked up now on dried shrooms for a while now (and they freeze well too)

Deadeye 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

Hilariously, some sad f*cker is disliking every post that mentions alcohol.

I like beer.

 Mike-W-99 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Rampikino:

> Thanks Mike - no thorns on the Bush. Bullaces makes sense. Got about 4kg!

> So for sloes, how should they taste when you pick them?

Think of the sourest thing you have ever tasted and quadruple it!

 Mike-W-99 02 Sep 2018
In reply to the sheep:

> Took the dog for a walk this afternoon and found a wild hop plant in a hedge. Going to have to have a bash at homebrew I feel ????

Should have added this link - https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/been-foraging.73187/#post-716021

 Rampikino 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike-W-99:

That makes sense.

Have found a bumper crop nearby.

Also negotiated a trade with the farmer down the lane - some cider for a load of apples.

More alcohol!

 the sheep 02 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike-W-99:

Will give it a bash and see what happens 

just happy to find hops in a local hedge row, bit of a surprise in Leicestershire 

 Mike Peacock 03 Sep 2018
In reply to Rampikino:

Have you never tried one? Like Mike W says, really sour and bitter; they dry your mouth out completely. Great fun is to be had if you're out walking with people who don't know what sloes are. Just tell them they're like delicious giant blueberries then watch their reaction when they try one.

 Rampikino 03 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

Yes, I have tried many - yesterday we tried various from different parts of the hedgerow.  I was more curious to know whether there is a certain point in their development where they need to be picked - i.e. do they become sweeter and softer like damsons or do they just remain viciously sour?

 Mike Peacock 03 Sep 2018
In reply to Rampikino:

I presume they always stay sour, hence why no one uses them for much apart from making booze with.

 Rampikino 03 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

Fair enough.  I think we will be going for in over the next couple of weeks - lots of sloe gin.

Meanwhile I have a lot of bullaces to clean and use!

 Mike-W-99 03 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

I find them too sour even after months sitting in gin.

 Dr.S at work 03 Sep 2018
In reply to Mike Peacock:

I made sloe jelly this year - nice, and can use the old ones from gin making.

 Rampikino 03 Sep 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Cleaned, weeded and bagged up the bullaces this evening - 5.5kg!

Very chuffed - jam, chutney and gin to follow!


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