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NEWS: Climbing Wall Reopenings: An Update from the ABC

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 UKC News 29 May 2020

The Association of British Climbing Walls (ABC) have produced some guidelines for the future reopening of climbing walls in the UK amid the COVID-19 pandemic. A campaign named 'Climbing the Walls Together' has also been launched by the ABC to support the industry. As a follow-up to our recent UKC article exploring the topic from a global perspective, here's a brief overview of the progress made so far by a working group of UK climbing wall industry professionals.



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In reply to UKC News:

9m2 per user, I am trying to visualise that. What are the dimensions of a shredded rubber flooring tile? 

 vortech1234 29 May 2020
In reply to Presley Whippet:

Typically 0.5m x 0.5m, so 6x6 tiles 

In reply to Presley Whippet:

The 9sqm is to calculate the maximum allowed capacity. You then have to work out how many people you can fit in in a safe social distancing way.

So thinking about the Climbing Works (main bit), we are 1050 sqm, take off the office, the storeroom, the reception etc plus a bit for the footprint of the walls and we are down to 900+ sqm. Could 100 people practice social distancing. Probably not. As an indicator the comp wall is just under 20m long so we could fit 10 there.

 Robert Durran 29 May 2020
In reply to Graeme Alderson:

I reckon 9 square metres per person would be busier than the busiest day ever at Ratho!

Removed User 29 May 2020
In reply to Graeme Alderson:

Mile End is a similar footprint and we're around 50. 

Andy

In reply to Removed User:

The Works is a bit more open than Mile End so I would expect we can fit more in but I doubt we'd get 90 in safely.

 HakanT 29 May 2020
In reply to Robert Durran:

You should try Vauxwall on Friday evening. Probably closer to 9 people per square meter.

In reply to Graeme Alderson:

Whilst this is all valid work towards a return to service, it doesn't currently look viable to me. 

What multiplier would need to be applied to entrance fees for a facility to remain solvent under these guidelines?

In reply to Presley Whippet:

It will be viable for some walls, it won't be for others.

 deepsoup 29 May 2020
In reply to Robert Durran:

> I reckon 9 square metres per person would be busier than the busiest day ever at Ratho!

Whereas the busiest day ever at The Works would be more like 9 people per square metre!

In reply to Graeme Alderson:

The multiplier need not be direct, ie a £10 ticket suddenly costs £30. It can also be indirect, ER recently sent out a questionnaire proposing time slots (think 1970s swimming pool, blue bands out now). A 2hr time slot compared with a typical 6hr Sunday gives a similar return. 

 dilatory 30 May 2020
In reply to Presley Whippet:

Time slots seem a great solution and an even better solution when I'm trying to find an excuse to move away from chatty people sucking my free time up at the wall. 

In reply to Presley Whippet:

Except the vast majority do not spend 6 hours down the wall*. And with social distancing making socialising harder I would guess more people will climb more and talk less and therefore not spend so long.

* Big Ron being the obvious exception.

In reply to Graeme Alderson:

I would disagree there, a typical kendal wall Sunday for many would be 5 to 7 hrs inclusive of a lunch break. Sure less than  50% of this is climbing but you wouldn't get far without a belayer. 

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In reply to HakanT:

Which VauxWall? There are two! 

In reply to Removed User:

Mile End also has the Secret Garden which, I think, could be classified as outdoor exercise. 

In reply to Graeme Alderson:

HarroWall is really open and, considering I have frequented there quite a bit, I still find it hard to find some of the areas there.

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 HakanT 31 May 2020
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

The original one under Vauxhall station. Great place if you go off-peak, but at peak it’s packed. I was there one time when they stopped letting people in. At that point it was so packed it didn’t feel safe as you would inevitably land on someone if you came off. The new one seems to be less crowded at peak, though I’ve only been twice.

In reply to UKC News:

The liquid chalk testing will always come up inconclusive, unless you test each brand separately!

Each company uses different concentration of alcohol! We use 70% as this has been tested to be the most effective at killing bacteria. Some other companies use as low as 30%

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In reply to HakanT:

I have been there a few times in the afternnoon and you are right it can be really packed.

I've been to the new one a few times including at one of the competitions in the evening and it wasn't crowded then. 

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 frankcp87 02 Jun 2020
In reply to UKC News:

Has anyone got access to the ABC document - it appears you have to be an ABC member to view it on their site

 GeorgeFNewport 09 Jun 2020
In reply to Graeme Alderson:

# And Matt Sander and Joe 'Tealey' Heeley

 Richard Horn 09 Jun 2020
In reply to UKC News:

The concept of social distancing in a climbing wall seems a little pointless... You only have to look at the chalk haze in your average wall / boulder venue to see that the air is stale, and I would have thought that if someone in the wall is contagious then there will be a risk that transmission will occur regardless, albeit not so high as you are unlikely to be standing in some else's breathing space for a long period of time.

I would have thought the sensible interim solution as stated is to limit to lower numbers so if someone is contagious then there is less people to transmit to.

This is personal, but I go to a climbing wall to mentally relax, and I find almost nothing relaxing about skulking around people obsessing about their 2m of space, in fact quite the opposite.


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