In reply to Presley Whippet:
> I would add re vans, avoid taking a van into the park if possible. Vans typically take up more parking space and any van whether day tripping or otherwise may be viewed as overnighting by pitchfork welding locals.
Most vans (e.g. Caddys, SWB Transits and Transporters) are no larger than an estate car. I'd agree entirely that the large Sprinter-type Adventure Wagons (tm) are indeed a parking menace. My other parking gripe, especially in the pass, is the excessive gap cars leave between each other - why do people feel the need to leave c.1.5 m between the car infant/behind? There needs to be some bays painted in the lay-bys IMO. Not aimed at you, rather a general parking rant.
> If you must use your van, at least remove the ubiquitous patagonia sticker from the back window which establishes your status as a cool dude. Takes the heat off climbers a little.
In my experience, the people with these tend not be be climbers, rather those who have decided van-life is cool prior to ascending mount peak Snowden highest in England and Wales. Not universally of course! (Please take this tongue-in-cheek comment as intended).