In reply to Al Evans:
> (In reply to johncoxmysteriously) It's a good question though John, I must admit that I hoped the line would be direct up the groove, but if James has found that the logical way to be a foot or so right with just a hand on the groove you can hardly quibble, The line is the way it should be, has been, climbed, anything else would be artificial, the line is the line.
Having seen the footage from 'Committed', it does seem he is climbing outside the Groove itself. In rather the way McClure missed most of the Elder Arete on Elder Statesman, it is not the perfect line. But this cannot detract from a brilliant new route from the most exciting climber to have come from this Isle since Ben 'n' Jerry.
A few questions: does this leave another possible line? Is the Elder arete route considered 'done'? Did anyone ever climb 'smiling butress'? Was Samson ever repeated?
Thanks for any answers.