In reply to mickyconnor:
(In reply to DAVETHOMAS90)
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"I can't see myself reaching this standard, so I can't see myself being up on IF thinking 'my, this is a bit snappy' or not."
Lacking in imagination? You could work up to it by doing some of the classics on Carreg Wastad.
"I would still think that if success depends on the rock holding, and not my skill, then it is ill judged."
That sounds like an opinion to me, and a judgement! Don't all ascents depend to a degree on many factors, including the rock holding and your desire to do the route?
"It's lovely to be ecumenical,"
Really? You mean, not wanting to take things out of context, or oversimplify things?
"but you will only encourage the extremists."
It doesn't sound as though you need much encouragement!