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NEWS: Pilgrimage and Sea of Tranquility for Pete Dawson

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 UKC News 21 Aug 2019
Pete eyeing up a good hold After ticking Hubble earlier in the month, an unstoppable Pete Dawson raided the Orme in Llandudno and climbed Pilgrimage (Font 8B+) in Parisella's Cave and Sea of Tranquillity (8c/8c+) at Lower Pen Trwyn.

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 Ally Smith 21 Aug 2019
In reply to UKC News:

Pete's is the 5th ascent of Pilgrimage, not the 4th.

Malc Smith, Alex Barrows, Mike Hart, Jack Palmeri, Pete Dawson.

 Andy Farnell 21 Aug 2019
In reply to Ally Smith:

Didn't Alex climb Pilgrimage a totally different way to everyone else (knee bars galore), almost enough to make it a different problem. Mike, Jack and Pete did it Malc's (ie the original, proper) way.

Not dissing Alex's method, he fits that way perfectly, but if you haven't got his rather long legs it's Malc's way or the highway.

Andy F

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In reply to Ally Smith:

Whoops. Thanks, Ally.

 Ally Smith 21 Aug 2019
In reply to Andy Farnell:

Andy - there's a story linked to the news page saying 4th ascent for Jack, so if UKC counted Alex's ascent before, they should do now!

Alex covered the same ground, with the same holds as the others but found an easier method - you could equally argue that the others climbed an eliminate by omitting to use the full arsenal of techniques available?

Suggesting you need long legs to make the kneebars work is disingenuous; actually some of them (the one at the Rockatrocity start and through the niche on broken Heart) work better if you've got short legs (or flexible calves).

 Andy Farnell 21 Aug 2019
In reply to Ally Smith:

I bet Malc didn't use thumbs, never mind knees 😆

Andy F

 abarro81 21 Aug 2019
In reply to Andy Farnell:

> but if you haven't got his rather long legs it's Malc's way or the highway.

That's prob true for some of the knees, but I'm not sure anyone who's short has put much time into finding short-person alternatives?

 teddy 21 Aug 2019

Superb to witness these two impressive ascents within 4 days of each other. A rich vein of form indeed! 


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