In reply to DanD72:
Hello there!
As a on-off long-ish term Cambridge resident (8 out of the last 10 years!), I've got a number of comments/ideas/thoughts. Will definitely be there on the 17th, good effort Dan for sorting this out.
Basically, in my time here, I've seen a number of people put together plans only to see them fail. Paz, you're right, Mark and (Anni I think?) had it really worked out but I think the issue was the land.
Having seen and worked out some figures myself, yes, it would have to be a serious business to start a dedicated, commercial centre from scratch. Not infeasible, but it would need some clout and financial backing to make it work (but nothing beyond the reach of a decent financing plan with the help of some business angels). The real issue here is that you need someone based here full time to work full time on it and make it happen. Frankly, what serious climber is going to chose to base themselves in Cambridge?! If it wasn't for the uni, and the subsequent clustering of jobs, i'd be out of here in a flash. Well, maybe stansted and access to font are also positives... but you get my gist! Anyway, a new centre could be a goer, but it needs someone with a lot of commitment to step forward and a serious business plan.
The co-op idea sounds really cool, I actually hadn't thought about it before, despite having been involved with Jim & co in getting the Jesus College gym wall (physically!) up and running. This is definitely something people-power can achieve. The only real issues that might cause problems are the legailties and the insurance. Nothing, I'm sure, that can't be overcome. This is a good idea.
Then, the situation with KK is ridiculous. Acutally, completely independently (I only just found this thread!), I've been trying to contact the manager at KK for the past few weeks to arrange a meeting. I'll spare you a slightly long and uninteresting story relating to a business plan a friend came up with over the summer for something completely different... but the outcome was I was inspried to crunch some numbers for KK. I actually cannot believe they have not invested the £15k or so it would take to cover their entire existing wall with a decent panel system!!!! I would be perfectly happy with a KK size wall properly done - I don't really care about indoor climbing, I just care about keeping strong! Anyway, I simply cannot believe they haven't upgraded it. Either:
1. They have an issue with financing. This can be *easily* resolved, with some careful thought and effort.
2. They don't realise they have a probem. Also potentially easily resolved, assuming the manager has a micro-ounce of business-nous!
3. The have an issue with beaurocracy. Tricky, might be a consequence of dealing with a council funded facility.
Whatever the cause, I wanted to meet the manager to find out what the issue was. This is something I'll put on hold till the meeting on the 17th.
Simply put, unless there is someone out there with the commitment to start a serious business, the co-op and the "persuade or make it sufficiently attractive for KK to upgrade their wall" options sound like goers.
I look forward to the 17th!
Dan