In reply to Solsbury:
Hi Rich + all,
How did you progress through the nhs to surgery in only 2 months? = see nhs docs >referal to nhs physio waiting list (6 wks?) > see nhs physio + follow programme for at least 2 months normally?
What physio did you do, + how often, etc?
Did you get an MRI, nhs or private, if so which + when, in the time line? . Did the MRI suggest surgery needed, because the tear was obvious/ what kind of surgery? (presume that went private?)
I'm 49. Got back into climbing last May, after very long break (25yrs). Then had to pack in after 6 months with left shoulder issues. Rested for 4 months b4 seeing an nhs doc to get nhs physio appointment, which came 2 months later in Bristol.
Shoulder impingement syndrome + labrum ligament tears ruled out, but Rotator Cuff issues suggested as the problem. A private physio thought the same. (perhaps that could still include cuff tears? Not yet identified)
Nhs physio prescribed Theraband exercises, private physio the same, with some variation, + progression of I's Y's T's + tennis ball massages.
Both said climbing again in a couple of months from then could b ok, plus try any other lightish gym / exercise stuff that doesn't aggravate it, later, light press up variations (on wall / on knees) + light shoulder press's. Nhs said i wouldn't get an MRI scan for a while but might later if the exercises didn't fix me.
I was also told that i have loads of tightness in my shoulders + back, + muscle knots there. I do a lot of driving + also ride a motorbike which probably adds to those muscles being tight.
I did all the physio stuff fairly regularly, 3 to 5 times a week for 2 months, but it was hard to get it all in, + sometimes more Theraband than IYT, + vice versa. Didn't feel like much had changed, left shoulder still feeling tweaky, achey, prickly, sore, stressy, etc, different feelings from one week to next.
Dropped the IYT as possibly more aggravating. (Might try re-intoduce it, see how it goes, good for shoulder stability.)
So after 2 months of physio stuff, started climbing, outdoorsy, easyish stuff. Have built up to highish 6's sport.
Not much changed, it was still feeling weakened, only slightly better some days. Climbing 2 or 3 times a week.
Went back to nhs physio, said to increase frequency of theraband sets to almost daily, (perhaps 1 rest day each week), + i can only get an MRI scan ( which might not help...apparently hard to spot the problems + figure stuff out from) when i've stuck to that (daily) for 4 to 8 wks + seen no improvement.
The increased frequency has definitely helped, but there's still an achey feeling, sometimes it feels better, sometimes worse. Also doing 100 press ups a week, just in sets of 10/15/20, 50 1 day 50 another, + 60 12kg dumbell shoulder presses a week, ( normally i find 10x15kg hard for me) 30 one day, 30 another, often same day as push ups.
What concerns me as well, is that even though i'm doing all the physio stuff, my right shoulder, is also occasionally now feeling like something is tweaking it in an injurous way, so these exercises help, but you will still be vulnerable to some shoulder injuries as a climber . I suppose that's obvious.
2 weeks ago the left was feeling worse, + i wanted to find out what to do next, but the last week i've been on a steepish 7a+ that i think i can do, and almost done a steepish 7a yesterday, + my shoulders just feels a bit achey, but in some ways feels no worse, + some prickly stingy tweakiness is even less, or cleared.
Perhaps it is slowly starting to be ok, we'll see. I still haven't stuck with daily therabands sets, work day is sometimes too long to feel upto it, but tbf, the full set both arms internal / extetnal/ abduction/ prone type rotation only takes 15mins, + the external rotations alone 5mins, which are the ones that seem to matter most for me, so will try make it fit again.
If it continues to be weak / no more improvement, + i can fit in climbing to the onset of autumn, then look at surgery / lay off over winter, that would be ideal.
I wonder if i might have some bone spurrs that could do with a shave... Scans show these?
But i doubt i can afford private (yet)
It would be fab if i could afford sports massage to my shoulders + back weekly too!
( Worth pointing out... Would like to be able to do some hang boarding, bought one, + pull up training, but steering clear so far, to avoid unnecessary shoulder stresses, climbing has been my main / only training.
Finger strength not yet an issue, main problem is getting pumped too soon.)
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