/ The Warwick Bear Rock climbing wall is being demolished
I'm not sure if anyone here is aware that the climbing manager (Colin) was sacked (and not his choice) just before xmas. Warwick sport found him too much to deal with, since he raised his voice and concern about the new wall, the person who is in charge is not a climber and has no knowledge about climbing, nor has any interest in what climbers want and whats best for the club. one thing is certain here, they are left with no barriers and now pushing their plans without Colin questioning their every steps.
to make matters worse, there is no one in charge for now and a disaster is only round the corner. Warwick Sport cares about one thing and that is making the new climbing wall more like a museum than a climbing wall to attract more wealthy students to make more money.
It's a sad time and a big shame, maybe more people need to stand up to raise their concern as still a lot of people are unaware of these changes..
i know the people there pretty well and i think they couldn't fool Colin and they just wanna run it like a gym than a proper climbing centre. like everywhere else, they looking to put a "yes man" in charge and they don't give a S**T about safety or quality of climbing.
Unfortunately, I think we might be too late to do anything about the new centre, although as someone mentioned above nothing ventured nothing gained. It also surprises me how few people know about the demolition of the centre and haven't seen the plans for the new one. Few people seem to know about Colin being sacked as well which, on a more personal level, is a shame as I got to know him quite well and found that although he can come across as quite a scary and gruff character he really does care a lot and wants the best for the centre and everyone who climbs there- he just has his own way of showing it! I've never posted on here before but I just want to say that I feel very strongly about this- it happened only a few days before Christmas as well. Although it might be too late to do anything about the centre (though I hope not), I would like to think that if enough people here voice their opinions on the matter then he might stand a chance at coming back as I have head he is going to appeal.
I have spoken to some of the students down the wall. They simply shrug their shoulders and say we've heard the plans are rubbish but 'they' don't want to listen and its too late. It seems that as the students will be moving on at the end of their degrees they aren't concerned enough to try and do anything about it.
As an ex-student at Warwick I can vouch for Warwick Sport being an absolutely shocking organisation.
They don't want to hear any concerns. This is not the first time they have ousted good people with strong views opposing proposed changes. Diabolical management.
Completely agree with Leopard02 about Colin. Was really shocked when I heard a couple of week ago that he had been sacked. He 'encouraged' me to take up climbing when my kids joined the climbing club and if you know Colin you will know that I wouldn't have had much choice in the matter! But I really needed that shove to give it a try and I love it Personally I think the climbing wall is a safer, friendlier place when he's around, so I hope he wins the appeal and actually comes back.
i do agree with you covclimber, I was at the wall on Sunday, the wall was super busy while Bear cubs sessions were running, I couldn't help but notice that there was a big difference in running the sessions, kids were sitting around on their phones in groups, staffs were somehow busy chatting and there was no structure or ducipline compare to only a month ago when Colin was around. I feel much safer for my kids to climb there when Colin is around, also shame to Warwick sport to keep it so quiet, I think more people would be concerned if they knew Colin is gone. I hope he appeals and I hope to see him back soon.
So moving this back in the direction I think it was intended, use of space design etc being key, I guess the point has been made, lots of varying views around featured walls and use of monster volumnes to make shapes on flat panels, overall though that it will have less lines but more bouldering and may have innovative new route setting ?! I guess it’s time to be hopeful and you never know it might be a total crushingly good joyful place to climb
> I guess it’s time to be hopeful and you never know it might be a total crushingly good joyful place to climb
You're not a Brexiteer, by any chance, are you? ;-)
I usually like half full view rather than half empty but find it hard to accept when there is no need to be here!? For very little money, probably much less than the current design (as all is needed is a high walled box-shaped sports hall with stucture to take climbing panels) WS could have done the climbing community and it's new students a great service. Instead we have a glass palace. So sad!
Agree. The plans are what they are and we have to be realistic about the practical implications. There is nothing hope and positive thinking can do to remedy the downgrade of the lead and top rope climbing in those plans.
I also cannot believe this proposal! For years, every week end, I have travelled 65 miles each way from Worcester to climb on something interesting, with well set routes rather than the horrible plywood walls which are all around and which are simply shite!
The layout of the wall with the proposed segregation is a poor approach to climbing wall design and in my opinion the result looks is totally banal. I understand that designers were probably just handed a space (a small space) to fill but someone must have advised the project planner and the project board that the space allocated was not sufficient. There are bigger, better walls not to many miles away which are already in direct competition with this wall already, at least Bear Wall has something different to offer.
I cannot believe that at a moment when Climbing is becoming an olympic sport, Warwick University, WARWICK UNIVERSITY for crying out loud, believes that it is ok to provide something such paltry facility, undoubtedly a downgrade from the existing one for students and local climbers alike. It seems a shortsighted decision.
I shan't be doing all that travelling, and none of my friends either shall either I can imagine, just to climb on a fairly small, ordinary wall but I do not suppose that the either the university or the operators actually care for the loss in revenue that shall undoubtedly result from the change.
It is possibly too late but to sharpen the complaints pens to the very to top of the chain, I think, starting with Colin's sacking.
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