In reply to mux:
> I must say I haven’t tried them on ice or with the weights on so could justify a full opinion, but if its anything like the story so far then I am sure it will be a happy ending.
I was doing some top-rope dry tooling with mine this morning - not my normal thing (the second route we did was short but overhanging a bit, with relatively positive holds to go for) but I really enjoyed using the Switches for that. I suppose that's sort of thing they were in part designed for so no surprise that they felt good for that, but then I stopped off on the way home to have a go at a flow of ice coming down a road cutting - about 10 mtrs high and I guess 75 or 80 degrees steep
https://twitter.com/TobyinHelsinki/status/409984256027684864/photo/1 In the end I decided not to try soloing to the top, and only went about half way up but I was really pleased with nice "thunk-yness" of the Switches placing into , than vert ice. I was wondering previously if they might be not so great for the mid-grade ice I can do, but this was quite a positive experience. Looking forward to trying them on some more ice now.