In reply to Aled Williams:If they are in there's loads of good options/variations starting to the right of Shamrock . You can incorporate any of Lord's Rake, West Wall Traverse, Deep Ghyll, or just wander anywhere further right via ice, snow, bits of rock and end up somewhere near the true finish of Lord's Rake. They all make for a very pleasant and varied day out, lead easily to the top of Scafell and are eminently reasonable on your own. All you need is for some conditions to build, but it looks quite promising at the moment. Have fun, whatever you do, John.