Rockfax Description
An earlier climb with the same name as route 20. Climb a tricky slanting crack then trend back up the left edge of the scoop. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
Renamed from "The Scoop" to the "The Old Scoop" in the BMC 07 guide

gaz3212 21/Aug 2nd O/S
Andypeak 21/Aug Lead
Phil West 12/Aug Lead rpt
with Chris Tan
Ben Bransby 20/Jun -
gar0cky 22/May Lead O/S
with Charlie
Hidden 10/May 2nd
cpoad 08/Apr Lead dnf

Got up starting crack and then tried to trend left as per Rockfax, but it was green and unlikely for VS I thought. Maybe I should have been more right as others seem to say.

with Dan P
Dave Almond 06/Apr 2nd O/S
with A Crook
A Crook 06/Apr Lead O/S
Oscar Popels 25/Mar 2nd

Tricky first move

aliReid 18/Feb Lead O/S
dynodean 17/Sep/16 Lead O/S

Hard starting move, then have to go much further right than expected.

with Luke
cragsman9000 18/Aug/16 Lead O/S
with Neil
charlie.wilkinson 05/Jul/16 2nd
petegruf 18/Jun/16 Lead
with patrick h
PenJD 08/Jun/16 Lead rpt
with Pat Dawson
Dan Vaj 30/May/16 Lead O/S
with Khalid
khalidq 30/May/16 2nd O/S
Ban1 22/May/16 2nd

Good starting move but above is a bit naff

with Mark
jameselee85 14/May/16 2nd O/S
chancer 14/May/16 Lead O/S
with David Dees
Nick1812P 11/May/16 Solo O/S
Conor Nally 06/May/16 2nd
with bljp
bljp 06/May/16 Lead O/S
kermit_uk 17/Apr/16 Solo O/S
Gympaul 16/Apr/16 -
with chris
Gympaul 16/Apr/16 Lead
with chris
Steven Andrews 03/Apr/16 Lead
with Richard Lines
EeFu 03/Apr/16 Lead dog
Hidden 03/Apr/16 2nd
Paul Baxter 03/Apr/16 2nd O/S
Capricorn One 25/Mar/16 Lead

Little traffic made this dirty, the line was pretty naff too.

with James WC
MrFantastic 16/Mar/16 Solo O/S
chrismadar 17/Oct/15 Lead O/S
with Freshers
Dave Rumney 09/Aug/15 Lead
with Tanya Milner
BTphonehome 22/Mar/15 Lead O/S
with Kasha
kasha_gregson 22/Mar/15 2nd
with Bram
craig.england1 ??/2015 Lead
MarkRoe 09/Nov/14 Lead O/S
Tom Keaveny 09/Nov/14 2nd O/S
sampollitt 26/Oct/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 05/Oct/14 Lead O/S
giuly 05/Oct/14 2nd
with Steve
hazeysunshine 28/Sep/14 2nd O/S
with Helen L, Val P
The Reaper 16/Sep/14 Solo O/S
Dave Mahon 27/Aug/14 2nd

Good lead Justin! The start is far more awkward then it looks.

with Justin Sharpe
Benstar 16/Aug/14 2nd
Hidden 16/Aug/14 Lead O/S
charvey 04/Aug/14 Solo O/S
Pixie-Andy 03/Aug/14 2nd O/S

Did you find the hands free knee jam halfway through the 2 move tricky start? 2 stars for the start and potential boldness of the easy middle section!

Hidden 27/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Jimbo C 27/Jul/14 2nd


with Jon, Chris
Hidden 03/Jul/14 Lead O/S
rfdl100 21/Jun/14 Lead
with Stefan P
Kirill 31/May/14 Lead dog

I am giving you 0 stars, you little...

with Mari Ijas
Hidden 31/May/14 -
Hidden 29/Mar/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 29/Mar/14 2nd
eburki1 29/Mar/14 Lead dog
MPSBunny 12/Mar/14 2nd
with Woodsy
Hidden 01/Mar/14 2nd O/S
HazelMacLean 01/Mar/14 Lead O/S

First VS lead. Fun start. Rest was a bit naff, ended up using crack to the right- would have been nails without.

david harvey ?/Mar/14 2nd O/S
with martin
martinbettridge06 ?/Mar/14 Lead
Alfie Conn ??/2014 -
Dan Arkle ??/2014 -
Klara 26/Oct/13 2nd
superturbo 20/Oct/13 Lead
Jim Slater 14/Sep/13 Solo rpt
Hidden 10/Aug/13 2nd O/S
Paul Hy 01/Aug/13 2nd dog
with Lance - USA
Theeni 30/Jun/13 2nd O/S
with Joseph
jrccrosby 30/Jun/13 Lead
Metalbear 04/Jun/13 2nd
with John James McEvoy
youwillfindjimbo 02/Jun/13 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Jun/13 2nd rpt
Ppocketwatch 25/May/13 Lead RP
Jeremy Wilton 19/May/13 2nd dog

The start's the crux - hard pull at the beginning - I pulled on his gear - the rest is friction again...

with Mark Bathe
mark12345 19/May/13 Lead
Hidden ?/May/13 2nd O/S
vinni 20/Apr/13 Lead O/S

Difficult not to use Martello Crack

with James
jogh 20/Apr/13 2nd
with Vincent
bwestwood 03/Mar/13 Solo
with pete sargeant
pie_eater_pete 03/Mar/13 Solo O/S
with bwestwood
Nick Sillem ??/2013 Solo O/S
tiga271 06/Oct/12 Lead
with Dave
WillCass 29/Sep/12 Lead
with Lee
deacondeacon 20/Aug/12 Solo O/S
mick1jones 18/Aug/12 Lead O/S
with Dave Wilkinson
Hidden 08/Aug/12 2nd O/S
lithos 08/Aug/12 Lead O/S

odd route, messed up the steep crack at start (carmen did much better) then wander about, good finish up the open scoop though.

with carmen
Hidden 21/Jul/12 Lead rpt
Tim Bateman 17/Jun/12 Lead
with Nick Beale
Hidden 02/Jun/12 2nd
MPSBunny 02/Jun/12 Lead O/S

Cheekily placed gear in Martello Cracks and used it for one or two moves.

albt 25/Mar/12 2nd dog
tomshanti 11/Mar/12 Lead O/S

nice,tricky moves to start

Hidden ??/2012 Lead
Hidden ??/2012 -
Justaname 06/Nov/11 Lead O/S
with John Hawley
Bernie Wylde 16/Oct/11 2nd
with sp
Steve J P 16/Oct/11 Lead
with BW
Adam Perrett 20/Aug/11 2nd O/S
johnl 20/Aug/11 Lead rpt
with Adam Perrett
buxtoncoffeelover 09/Aug/11 Lead
Liam Ingram 13/Jul/11 Solo O/S
simeclimb68 29/Apr/11 Solo O/S
Hidden 17/Apr/11 Lead O/S
fatbuoybazza 17/Apr/11 2nd O/S
with deborah
MJS ??/2011 -
patsaunders ??/2011 -
patsaunders ??/2011 Lead
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ?/Dec/10 -
D Berry 16/Nov/10 Lead O/S

Very akward start. Above a pad.

with Claire Berry
Hidden 24/Oct/10 2nd O/S
Jake Young 10/Oct/10 Lead O/S
with Catherine, Miriam
Hidden 20/Sep/10 2nd
Hidden 18/Sep/10 2nd rpt
James_D 04/Sep/10 Lead O/S

May have cheated. Possibly went too far right. but an overhanging mantle with rubbish gear seemed a bit of a stretch for VS.

with Esther
Pete Randall 29/Aug/10 Lead O/S
with Richard B
Hidden 19/Aug/10 Solo O/S
llamaglama 19/Aug/10 Solo
with Jam
Richard Gilbert 26/Jun/10 Lead dog

Have to fess up to some early "help" from the second - found the start hard and he gave me a push to the buttock. I might not have needed it but better that than a fall!

with Alex Lambert
da_cox 26/Jun/10 Lead O/S

Apart from the crux start, rather an easy VS. Slightly disappointing.

with Richard Overitt
petegruf 12/Jun/10 Lead O/S
with chris b
Jim Slater 24/Apr/10 2nd O/S
with Angus Malcolm
Alaric 17/Apr/10 2nd
with Jason
kleinej 17/Apr/10 Lead O/S

Description says "almost into Martello Cracks" but I couldn't figure out how to mantelshelf without at least using the side/arete of the wide crack.

with Alaric
AielSavage ??/2010 Lead O/S
richyg ??/2010 -
tdudley 15/Nov/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 15/Nov/09 2nd O/S
steveb2006 09/Nov/09 Solo
Brown 31/Oct/09 Solo O/S
with Solo
Rampikino 11/Oct/09 Lead
with Cat
charley 04/Oct/09 Lead O/S

Didn't really rate this climb...

with Geoff, Kev
Hidden ?/Oct/09 -
vvanhinsbergh 23/Aug/09 Lead O/S
chili-d 06/Aug/09 2nd
with Poz
Hidden 05/Aug/09 Lead
Hidden 05/Jul/09 2nd O/S
Rachel S 05/Jul/09 2nd O/S
Hidden 21/Jun/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 21/Jun/09 2nd
tiga271 29/May/09 Lead
with Steve
bridget143 10/May/09 2nd O/S
with Rob Middleton
edd rab 07/May/09 Lead O/S
popebenedictus 07/May/09 2nd rpt

It's an odd one

with Edd Rab
hang_about 22/Apr/09 2nd
Lou Kennedy 29/Mar/09 Lead
Hidden 29/Mar/09 2nd
DerwentDiluted 17/Mar/09 Lead
RM199 ??/2009 -
BRUCESTRAC ??/2009 -
Sal37 ??/2009 Lead O/S
peter myers ??/2009 -
with Tom Sylvester
kimrickwood ??/2009 2nd
Goose4 ??/2009 -
Elsier 12/Oct/08 2nd O/S
with Richard, Ian H, Clare
petemeads 09/Oct/08 Solo
Hidden 25/Sep/08 2nd rpt
adrianscott 18/Sep/08 2nd
popebenedictus 18/Sep/08 Lead O/S
maybe_si 28/Jul/08 Solo O/S
Hidden 01/Jul/08 2nd
feilx 11/Jun/08 Solo O/S
The Bad Cough 08/Jun/08 Lead O/S
with Lee Bonner
dannyboy83 ?/Jun/08 Solo O/S
Hidden 18/May/08 Lead
Hidden 17/May/08 2nd
IanJackson 09/Feb/08 Solo O/S
with Big Ian
Hidden ??/2008 -
mr bounce 13/Aug/07 Lead O/S
with Jo
Moniawl 11/Aug/07 2nd

interesting start with a double heel-hook, almost an overhang for me

with rich
Rich A-Wilkes 11/Aug/07 Lead O/S
with Monika
Hidden 05/Aug/07 2nd rpt
Hidden ?/Aug/07 Lead
@ndy ?/Aug/07 Lead
Joe Dove 22/Jul/07 Lead
with paul
Calder 22/Jul/07 2nd
mrsmish 09/Jun/07 Lead
steve mee 09/Jun/07 2nd
Hidden ?/Jun/07 2nd
Hidden 31/May/07 2nd
Hidden 20/May/07 Lead O/S
AJ007 25/Apr/07 Solo
liz77 12/Apr/07 Lead
with HRC
Chris the Tall 11/Apr/07 Solo rpt
Hidden 01/Apr/07 2nd O/S
Stone_donkey ?/Apr/07 2nd
with George
Stig 24/Mar/07 2nd rpt
with Maciek
Hidden ??/2007 Lead
Peakpdr ??/2007 -
dan_o_b ??/2007 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2007 -
victim of mathematics 26/Nov/06 2nd O/S
with Jim
paul_d 21/Oct/06 2nd
Caralynh 21/Oct/06 Lead O/S
Hidden 15/Oct/06 2nd O/S
Graeme Hammond 08/Oct/06 Lead O/S
with Pete aka Dad
Hidden 30/Sep/06 Lead
hamish2016 17/Sep/06 Lead
Mike H 17/Sep/06 Lead
with Mahjongg
roverhead 17/Sep/06 2nd
mahjongg 17/Sep/06 2nd
with Mike H
Hidden 09/Sep/06 2nd
Hidden 29/Jul/06 Lead
just wanna climb 27/Jun/06 Lead O/S

One of the weirdest climbs ever

with Colin and pep
colin milton 27/Jun/06 2nd
with just wanna climb
Hidden 11/Jun/06 Lead O/S
Piers Harley 04/Jun/06 2nd
with Simon Clark
Rob Laird 04/Jun/06 2nd O/S
jimdanson 21/Jan/06 2nd
with Dan Robinson
hamish2016 ??/2006 Lead O/S
with Ross Overhead
Hidden 19/Nov/05 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Nov/05 Lead
Hidden 31/Jul/05 Lead RP
Strong Steve 17/Jul/05 Lead O/S
ASchwirtz 14/May/05 Lead O/S
with Shona D'arcy
Hidden 01/May/05 Lead
Stig 10/Apr/05 2nd O/S
with Jonathan Teale
cem 03/Apr/05 Lead O/S
with Natasha Geere
mwh 21/Mar/05 2nd O/S
Pete Graham ??/2005 Solo
clive-greenwood ??/2005 2nd
SMc ?/May/04 Lead O/S
with Anne
PenJD 06/Mar/04 Lead O/S
with Dave E and Debbie W
Phil West 27/Sep/03 Lead O/S
with Shaun Walby
jsw1 07/Jun/03 Lead O/S
with Steve Lyon
Hidden 01/Jun/03 2nd O/S
Mark Stevenson 25/May/03 Solo O/S
fellgazelle ??/2003 Lead O/S
with Dave Fooks
James B 20/Apr/02 -
Jon Greengrass ??/2002 -
Chris the Tall ??/2001 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2000 Lead
Hidden ??/2000 -
Hidden 04/Jul/98 2nd
Iain Thow 22/Aug/97 Solo
Hidden 05/Jun/93 2nd
Hidden 15/May/92 Lead
Canyak ??/1973 -
mikej 10/Sep/67 Lead
with Steve Radford, Ted Markham, Nigel Sumner
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