Rockfax Description
A fine direct line up the vague arete left of Deja Vu. From the first bolt on Deja Vu climb direct past three bolts until level with another bolt. Traverse left under this then climb the arete above (bolt) to the break. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
A direct line up the wall left of Deja Vu. From the first bolt on Deja Vu climb direct past 3 bolts until level with another bolt. Move up and left past this then climb the arete, as for Diminishing Returns, passing one more bolt to the break. (Finishing up Deja Vu is more obvious but harder 7b/+)

FA. Martin Berzins and others 1985

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GeoffG 20 May, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: why is this given a trad grade when its fully bolted? surely 7b.
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βeta: why is this given a trad grade when its fully bolted? surely 7b.
Steve Crowe 25 May, 2002 Show βeta
βeta: Clip two bolts from the right? I don't think so.
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βeta: Clip two bolts from the right? I don't think so.
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Logged Ascents

UserDateStyleNotes & Partners
DeaNomNom 31 Mar Lead RP I think I did this? My old guidebook doesn't shed much light on a route name.
I think I did this? My old guidebook doesn't shed much light on a route name.
SimonTilley 12 Aug, 2018 Lead RP 2nd 7b today!! And after only 1.5 attempts my first two 7b at kilnsey in one day!
2nd 7b today!! And after only 1.5 attempts my first two 7b at kilnsey in one day!
littleluke 6 Aug, 2018 Lead
Hidden 20 Jul, 2018 Lead RP
Nige M 14 Jul, 2018 Lead RP
with Kim M
with Kim M
atapper21 11 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S
with jolucas
with jolucas
jolucas ?Jul, 2018 Lead
Moondance 6 Jun, 2018 Lead RP
with Paul B
with Paul B
Hidden 6 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
JM 9 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S
robertmctague 27 May, 2017 Lead β Onsight from where it breaks out from Deja Vu, which I tried last year. Bit of a heartbreaker slap at the top. Brilliant.
with Martin
Onsight from where it breaks out from Deja Vu, which I tried last year. Bit of a heartbreaker slap at the top. Brilliant.
with Martin
D.Russell 25 May, 2017 Lead RP 2nd shot, more sustained but easier climbing than the daja vu link up.
2nd shot, more sustained but easier climbing than the daja vu link up.
samwillo 25 May, 2017 Lead Pokey crux at top - hardest part is working out what routes goes where Deja vu/Vissy vu/Visitation
Pokey crux at top - hardest part is working out what routes goes where Deja vu/Vissy vu/Visitation
Hidden ??, 2017 -
jfreeman 14 Aug, 2016 Lead RP
with James Turnbull
with James Turnbull
Luke Dawson 9 Aug, 2016 Lead β
with Ben Davison, amccann
with Ben Davison, amccann
oread 7 Aug, 2016 Lead O/S Having done vissy vu yesterday
Having done vissy vu yesterday
Hidden 3 Aug, 2016 Lead β
Paul Figg 26 Jul, 2016 Lead RP As always not too bad when you know what to expect, still had a bit left in the tank for the pumpy finish.
As always not too bad when you know what to expect, still had a bit left in the tank for the pumpy finish.
innes 24 Jul, 2016 Lead β onsight from where it splits from Vissy Vu
with Ruth
onsight from where it splits from Vissy Vu
with Ruth
Paul Figg 19 Jul, 2016 Lead dog Didn't have enough left in the tank for the top on the red point.
Didn't have enough left in the tank for the top on the red point.
Paul Figg 6 Jul, 2016 Lead dnf Gets a bit confusing near the top as to where to step left, should have gone left across the smooth shield passing the bolt.
Gets a bit confusing near the top as to where to step left, should have gone left across the smooth shield passing the bolt.
Ian Broome 3 Jul, 2016 Lead β only just clung on at the top
only just clung on at the top
Ally Smith 25 Jun, 2016 Lead RP If it was a little cleaner this would be close to 3*
with Ted Kingsnorth
If it was a little cleaner this would be close to 3*
with Ted Kingsnorth
Hidden 24 Jun, 2016 Lead O/S
ollyisaclimber 21 Jun, 2016 Lead RP 2nd go.
2nd go.
Joshua Robertson 21 Jun, 2016 Lead RP
Hidden 18 Jun, 2016 Lead RP
nickmoulden 8 May, 2016 TR O/S
with zoe bidula
with zoe bidula
Duncan Campbell 20 Jul, 2015 TR dog Hard at the top. Having just looked at the guide turns out we went too direct at the top instead of stepping left... Thought it had a chunky runout on it.
Hard at the top. Having just looked at the guide turns out we went too direct at the top instead of stepping left... Thought it had a chunky runout on it.
marky 28 Sep, 2014 Lead β Did the start and finish a week ago on TR on Diminishing Returns. Good route DR next.
with Sharon
Did the start and finish a week ago on TR on Diminishing Returns. Good route DR next.
with Sharon
soph 7 Sep, 2014 Lead O/S Think top roped this about 5 years ago
with Brian McAlinden
Think top roped this about 5 years ago
with Brian McAlinden
nathanlee 25 Aug, 2014 Lead RP Fell off low down, lowered and climbed. Tricky and the top and pretty soaked!
with Rob Greenwood
Fell off low down, lowered and climbed. Tricky and the top and pretty soaked!
with Rob Greenwood
Rob Greenwood - UKClimbing 25 Aug, 2014 Lead Good route, but a very fine line between what is Deja Vu and what is Visitation. If you don't worry about these sorts of details then it's a great route, particularly if you stick clip those threads!
Good route, but a very fine line between what is Deja Vu and what is Visitation. If you don't worry about these sorts of details then it's a great route, particularly if you stick clip those threads!
thebigfriendlymoose 10 Aug, 2014 Lead β First try but having already climbed Diminishing Returns.
with Sankey
First try but having already climbed Diminishing Returns.
with Sankey
Hidden 6 Aug, 2014 Lead β
datoon 12 Jun, 2014 Lead RP
hamer89 9 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S
Adam Lincoln 20 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
with Jordan Buys
with Jordan Buys
Rich Kirby 27 May, 2010 Lead O/S
with Eddie
with Eddie
Hidden 19 Jun, 2009 Lead O/S
Hidden 10 Jun, 2009 -
Tom Briggs 12 Aug, 2007 Lead rpt
with Nic Sellers
with Nic Sellers
Boy ??, 2006 -
Hidden ??, 2005 Lead
sadams 21 May, 2000 Lead O/S
with Tom Briggs
with Tom Briggs
Hidden ??, 2000 Lead
Steve Crowe 11 May, 1998 Lead β Cleaned on ab first.
with karin
Cleaned on ab first.
with karin
andybirtwistle 16 Aug, 1990 Lead RP
Hidden 30 Jun, 1990 Lead
Hidden 30 Jun, 1990 Lead O/S
Mike Owen 29 Jun, 1989 Lead O/S
with Chris Hardy, Dave Hinton
with Chris Hardy, Dave Hinton
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