Rockfax Description
The shallow groove that heads up the bottom wall to the first bulge is a good climb. This is the initial section of a number of routes and combinations that continue from above the lower-off. © Rockfax

FA. Chris Sowden, Mark Speedborough 1986

Ticklists: Yorkshire Limestone Graded List.

Hidden 31/Jul/17 Lead RP
steveleahy 12/Jul/17 Lead RP

Starting to look at The Groove

Kimmi gayle 25/Jun/17 2nd dog
John Thornton 11/Jun/17 Lead
maddy.c 28/May/17 -
Luke Dawson 08/May/17 Lead RP
with Paul Reeve
John Kettle 04/May/17 Lead RP
Hidden 29/Apr/17 Lead RP
Hidden 26/Apr/17 Lead RP
noshjewbold 22/Apr/17 Lead RP
with richard
Hidden 01/Apr/17 Lead RP
Leedearden 26/Mar/17 Lead RP
funsized 17/Mar/17 Lead RP

chuffing chuff

with Rob
nickmoulden 15/Mar/17 Lead rpt
with zoe bidula
Hidden ??/2017 -
richgibson 25/Oct/16 Lead RP
with Tim Wise, Dave, Clicky
slowmotion 25/Oct/16 Lead RP


with jonny P
PeterDawson 01/Oct/16 Lead O/S
sdht ?/Sep/16 TR dog

Work in Progress

tommccluskey 26/Aug/16 Lead RP

Dropped the last move onsight

ollyisaclimber 18/Aug/16 Lead RP
John_Beesley 29/Jul/16 Lead dog

Extremely painful and awkward moves. Great once you know the beta! Refused to clip without grabbing chains; way too sketchy! One to come back to! Definitely not soft for the grade either; absolutely 7B+!!

with mop449
mop449 29/Jul/16 Lead dog

Not soft.

Alex Handley 09/Jul/16 Lead dog

wet at the top

merlin138 09/Jul/16 Lead dnf

Couldn't get the start, swapped and had a go on top rope. Start is ok with beta, rest felt too fingery for me at the moment.

nathanlee 13/Jun/16 Lead RP

Retroflash. Not a pleasant route

with Tom Adams
Hidden 08/May/16 Lead dog
samrad 10/Apr/16 Lead O/S
Kody-James 08/Apr/16 Lead dog
Flavio 02/Apr/16 Lead dog
MichaelGallimore 02/Apr/16 Lead RP
with Rob fenton, Flavio
Hidden ?/Apr/16 Lead RP
1poundSOCKS 31/Mar/16 Lead RP

Not the best route. Very hard to spot the footholds for the last few moves.

penny.orr 25/Mar/16 Lead dog

Horrible, but strangely, I care about finishing it off - conditions were too cold for such sharp hods though.

Apharri ??/2016 Lead
datoon 26/Aug/15 Lead β
oread 22/Aug/15 Lead
dan gibson 02/Aug/15 Lead RP
with julie carroll
julesp 29/Jul/15 Lead dog

Sharp and painful!

with kat
MichaelGallimore 14/Jun/15 Lead RP
with jon lawson
Tophe 31/May/15 Lead β
with Jonny P
Kim M 28/May/15 Lead RP
with Nige
robertmctague 20/May/15 Lead RP

Nearly onsighted then got confused about a move I did first go, so took longer than expected. Pretty awful route really, quite sharp and tweaky.

markalmack 08/May/15 Lead RP

Not a good warm up. Not a good climb

with Jack
samwillo 07/May/15 Lead

The first of many many times I suspect.

Hidden 03/May/15 Lead RP
Justin T ?/May/15 Lead dog
manfred ?/May/15 Lead
with Andy Hobson
JamesTurnbull97 28/Apr/15 Lead RP

Really enjoyed to climbing. Almost fell off clipping the belay of the crimp

np134 26/Apr/15 Lead RP

3rd go.

Hidden ??/2015 -
SED 01/Nov/14 TR dog
Steve Hickie ?/Oct/14 -
SED 28/Sep/14 TR dog
barni 21/Sep/14 Lead dog
phillipwright ?/Sep/14 Lead RP
Haydn Jones 25/Aug/14 Lead β

bottom of the grade my arse

with ted kingsnorth
Hidden 22/Jun/14 Lead dog
Ally Smith 24/May/14 Lead rpt
with Broome
morganator 09/May/14 Lead dog

Apparently a soft touch but after Yosemite Wall and Appetite I was definitely not finding it easy. Perplexing moves (poor feet) going back from the left hand flake near the top

jesse rees 20/Apr/14 Lead RP
Hidden 22/Mar/14 TR dog
will9911 ??/2014 Lead O/S
Sankey 12/Oct/13 TR dog
with Luke
Sankey 10/Oct/13 TR dog
with Luke
marky 22/Sep/13 Lead RP


with Sharon
DrGav 15/Aug/13 Lead dog

Top half sapping, starting with a horrendous match foot

with Wendy
Bennykr 25/Jun/13 Lead RP

Some big moves but once you know what to do feels ok. 2nd go.

with Dan Green
dwisniewski 12/Jun/13 Lead

2nd go

with Stefan, Jay
Hidden 08/Jun/13 Lead RP
J.Wells 28/Apr/13 Lead RP
Ally Smith 14/Apr/13 TR

6x laps

Hidden 09/Apr/13 Lead RP
Hidden 18/Mar/13 Lead β
Hidden 10/Mar/13 Lead dog
nick bamber ??/2013 -
ejected ??/2013 -
atapper21 ??/2013 Lead RP
Julian Cooper 21/Oct/12 Lead RP
with Stuart Knott
Ally Smith 14/Oct/12 Lead rpt
with Will K
cooperman 22/Sep/12 TR dog

Too hot!!

with Nick Wharton
Just Another Dave 19/Sep/12 TR dog
Hidden 19/Sep/12 Lead RP
Hidden 16/Sep/12 Lead dog
Hidden 14/Sep/12 Lead dnf
Hidden 13/Sep/12 Lead dnf
Hidden 09/Sep/12 Lead dnf
Hidden 08/Sep/12 Lead dnf
Hidden 06/Sep/12 TR dog
Ally Smith 01/Sep/12 TR

Laps at end of session to optimise sequence

with Matt Donnelly
Hidden 31/Aug/12 Lead dnf
Hidden 30/Aug/12 TR dog
Hidden 23/Aug/12 TR dog
Hidden 20/Aug/12 Lead RP
_m.cox_ 20/Aug/12 Lead RP
with Prajak
efrance24234 19/Aug/12 Lead RP
tmawer 11/Aug/12 TR dnf
with sarah, andrea
Hidden 11/Aug/12 TR dog
RebekahD 08/Aug/12 Lead dog

Fingers still pretty trashed after working the route yesterday but gave the RP a bash anyway. Foot slipped on the crux. Too hot and greasy to try again today and fingers still very trashed.

with Sean
RebekahD 07/Aug/12 TR RP

Had worked the moves on this route previously but trashed fingers meant I couldn't go for the lead!

with Sean
Hidden 31/Jul/12 TR rpt
Hidden 29/Jul/12 TR rpt
kevg 26/Jul/12 Lead dog

Wet at the start, damp at the top, not very dry in the middle.

with Fraser
MarkRoe 21/Jun/12 Lead RP
TCCB 17/Jun/12 Lead O/S

Missed the pockets after the flake, 2 finger gastons arnt much fun...

Dan Jenkin 05/Jun/12 Lead O/S

great route

thebigfriendlymoose 03/Jun/12 Lead RP
with Martin Fisher
Hidden 19/May/12 Lead RP
jacobjacob 14/May/12 Lead RP

Retro-flash, decked trying to clip the 3rd bolt years ago :/, good to get it finished off.

jfreeman 13/May/12 Lead β
with Chris Gore
bigie bob 21/Apr/12 Lead β
middlevern 07/Apr/12 Lead RP

1st redpoint

thebigfriendlymoose 06/Apr/12 TR RP
Hidden 21/Mar/12 Lead rpt
catt 18/Mar/12 Lead RP

Set off battered to strip the route and made an accidental RP. Free-styling to barely clip the chains. Great fun!

Hidden 07/Mar/12 Lead dog
blaza1 ??/2012 Lead RP
Hidden ??/2012 Lead dnf
highrepute 28/Sep/11 Lead RP
Hidden ?/Sep/11 Lead RP
Adam Booth 12/Aug/11 TR dog
Ed Booth 12/Aug/11 Lead RP

Tried to flash which didnt go great. worked then 1st redpoint.

Hidden 07/Aug/11 Lead RP
Matt Rowat 09/Jul/11 Lead RP

Tick. Well, actually grabbed the chain when my fingers started to grease of the crimp with all the slack out to clip... I'm not doing it again! Felt harder than other 7b's I've done at Malham.

with Parky
khawk 28/Jun/11 Lead dog
with DT
nickmoulden 23/Jun/11 Lead rpt
w.pettet-smith 22/Jun/11 Lead dog

malham is hard.

with simon kimber
craig matheson 21/Jun/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 19/Jun/11 Lead rpt
Hidden 19/Jun/11 TR dog
steepstuff 19/May/11 -
with Neil
Adam Lincoln 14/May/11 Lead rpt
with Paul Reeve
Hidden 07/May/11 AltLd
Hidden 25/Apr/11 Lead dog
NDD 24/Apr/11 -
wilsonmackenzie 24/Apr/11 Lead RP

so close to the flash!

Wendy 24/Apr/11 Lead RP
RdC 24/Apr/11 Lead RP

Found this well hard/sharp but well worth it. Early bird catches the worm! Ps- Hope my clipdraw snaps on the c££t that has it.

with Team Beast
ChrisCSC89 23/Apr/11 Lead RP

Felt much harder than Seventh Aardvark

with Nic, Ross, Wilson
Hidden 20/Apr/11 Lead RP
Stig 13/Apr/11 TR

I love this route already

with james oswald
design crisis 10/Apr/11 Lead dog
with Ness
James Marshall ?/Apr/11 Lead RP
Hidden 05/Mar/11 Lead
Hidden 05/Mar/11 Lead
Hidden ??/2011 Lead
jujuheath ??/2011 Lead
AlistairB 01/Sep/10 Lead dog

Needs more work on sequence to RP! Very technical.

with Lisa
Hidden ?/Aug/10 Lead RP
akhughes 21/Jul/10 Lead RP
with Mhairi
mhairi thorburn 21/Jul/10 Lead RP
with adam
Hidden 17/Jul/10 Lead dog
Hidden 30/May/10 Lead RP
chris_j_s 30/Apr/10 Lead dog

Another couple of goes today. One to put up draws/remember moves, the next was my best shot at it yet. Almost but not quite.

derico 20/Apr/10 Lead

Not soft!

with Mat W
Hidden 06/Apr/10 TR RP
The Mountain Goat 03/Apr/10 TR dnf
Birdo 03/Apr/10 Lead dog

top holds wet, good one for next time

with Daniel Wicks
ukb & bmc shark 28/Mar/10 Lead β
Mike Goldthorp 21/Mar/10 Lead RP

3rd go, would have been nice to flash but that move to the big sidepull would be hard to get first go.

chris_j_s 14/Mar/10 Lead dog

Did all moves twice on lead but couldn't link in one. Should go in another session or two.

with Will Carroll
robbo 09/Mar/10 Lead RP

Put to bed thank god......... Next

Hidden 01/Jan/10 -
Hidden ??/2010 -
ewen 22/Sep/09 Lead dog
with neil
Stewart B 23/Aug/09 Lead β
with Ben Litster
Hidden 28/Jul/09 TR
marky 19/Jul/09 Lead β

Good mileage day

with John
Hidden 10/Jul/09 Lead RP
Ian Broome 07/Jun/09 Lead dnf
Hidden 06/Jun/09 Lead RP
jondude 21/May/09 Lead O/S
Sean_J 12/May/09 Lead O/S

first 7b O/S :)

with Paul
willackers 26/Apr/09 Lead RP

1st redpoint

with Henners, Stu, Chris
lx 14/Apr/09 Lead O/S


with alison
Hidden 11/Apr/09 Lead RP
Hidden 01/Apr/09 Lead
Hidden 31/Mar/09 Lead rpt
Hidden 29/Mar/09 Lead O/S
Chazz 26/Mar/09 Lead RP

First F7b

marky 22/Mar/09 Lead rpt
with John
Hidden 22/Mar/09 TR rpt
Hidden 07/Feb/09 Lead RP
Hidden ??/2009 Lead
Hidden ??/2009 -
C coldwell-storry ??/2009 Lead RP
with rob lay
Ally Smith ?/Aug/08 Lead O/S

Date a guess

will9911 30/Jul/08 Lead dog
with will
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe 05/Jul/08 Lead RP

2 days working on the Groove.

with Nic Sellers
Hidden ?/Jul/08 Lead RP
andy gravestock 07/Jun/08 Lead O/S
with steve and rob
Ram MkiV 22/May/08 Lead RP
with Al
Hidden 17/May/08 Lead RP
Hidden 26/Apr/08 TR rpt
marky 20/Apr/08 Lead β

Part I of The Groove!

with Sharon
Hidden 15/Apr/08 Lead RP
Hidden ?/Mar/08 Lead RP
Greg Boswell ??/2008 Lead RP
Oliver Wright ??/2008 Lead
Hidden ??/2008 -
GrantB ?/Nov/07 Lead RP
with Alaan
alaan 27/Oct/07 Lead RP

Hardly ideal conditions for a redpoint (totally gopping) but nothing a little swearing couldn't overcome.

with Ally
Hidden 07/Oct/07 TR rpt
BobbyH 22/Sep/07 2nd dog
with SS
Hidden ?/Sep/07 Lead RP
Alex Mason 19/Jul/07 Lead

done in 30mins, TR, failed rp, sent. technical fingery wall climbing. 2 star

Hidden 02/Jun/07 Lead RP
Hidden 16/May/07 Lead RP
Rob1988 ?/May/07 Lead
Hidden 07/Apr/07 Lead RP
pezzerrr ??/2007 Lead RP
Paul Forster ??/2007 -
Hidden 02/Jun/06 Lead rpt
Hidden 20/May/06 Lead RP
Brown 10/May/06 Lead RP
with Paul
Hidden 29/Apr/06 Lead RP
Hidden ?/Apr/06 Lead RP
Grimny-lyn - the merry dwarf ?/Mar/06 Lead RP
with Steve, the sequence monkey, Glennie
Toby Dunn ??/2006 Lead
Boy ??/2006 -
Hidden 30/Nov/05 Lead RP
John Southworth ??/2005 -
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe ??/2005 -
spidey 12/Sep/04 Lead RP
Cassidy 18/May/04 Lead RP
with Scottish Raiding Party
jameshiggins 15/May/04 Lead RP
Hidden ?/Apr/04 Lead RP
Hidden 29/Feb/04 Lead RP
Hidden ??/2004 Lead RP
Hidden ??/2003 Lead RP
Hidden ??/2003 -
Henners 01/Sep/02 Lead RP
with Neil Buzby
kristian ??/2001 Lead
nige ?/Feb/00 Lead RP
with mark hounslea
Eduardo Martinez ??/2000 -
Hidden ??/2000 -
buzby78 17/Aug/97 Lead RP
Mike Owen 16/Jul/97 Lead rpt
with Nige Hunt
Mike Owen 09/Jul/97 Lead rpt
with Nige Hunt
Hidden 13/Jun/97 Lead RP
Hidden 24/May/97 Lead RP
Steve Crowe 07/Jul/96 Lead RP

1st RP

SR1970 ?/Jul/96 Lead RP
Dave Musgrove 17/May/96 Lead RP

Success at last! After several failures over recent weeks. Probably my first 7b red-point.

Dave Musgrove 20/Apr/96 Lead dog

Getting there!

with Nigel Baker
Graeme Smithy ?/Apr/96 Lead RP

1st rp and again when doing the groove

robyn1 ??/1996 -
Dave Musgrove Jnr 24/Sep/95 Lead RP
marconi ?/Aug/95 Lead RP
with Slater, Bingham
Dave Musgrove 04/Jun/95 Lead dog
with Steve Webster
Hidden 22/Apr/95 Lead RP
Billg 14/Apr/95 Lead RP
with Andy Swan
Hidden ??/1995 -
goi.ashmore 03/Sep/94 Lead RP
with Simon Coles
Rich Kirby ?/Jun/94 Lead O/S
with Tim Bonner
innes ??/1994 Lead RP
Seb Grieve ??/1994 -
Paul Figg 19/Sep/93 Lead
Hidden 13/Mar/93 Lead RP
Tony Little 06/Mar/93 Lead RP
with Pete
mattnuttall 18/Jul/92 Lead RP

2nd RP

ste_d 12/May/92 Lead RP
whispering nic ?/Apr/92 -
Hidden User 56 ??/1992 -
with whispering nic
crossleysm ??/1992 Lead RP

1 RP

Stoney Boy 17/Jul/91 Lead RP
Mike Owen 23/Jun/91 Lead rpt
with Elaine Owen
Mike Owen 21/Apr/91 Lead rpt
with Elaine Owen
Hidden 07/Oct/90 Lead RP
jfletcher 30/Aug/90 Lead RP
Mike Owen 15/Jul/90 Lead rpt
with Elaine Owen, Phil Davidson
Hidden 11/Mar/90 Lead RP
Andy Hyslop ?/Mar/90 -
Paul Clarke ??/1990 Lead
with Chris Sowden
GaryM ??/1990 Lead RP
with Keith, Dale
Glenn Sutcliffe ??/1990 -
with keefe
keefe ??/1990 -
Dave Douglas 12/Sep/89 Lead RP
Hidden 08/Jul/89 2nd
mark mcgowan01 ??/1989 -
Hidden ??/1989 Lead
Mike Owen 25/Sep/88 Lead O/S
with Mike Watson
William Robertson ??/1988 Lead O/S
with Emily
Hidden ??/1987 -
Fakey Rocks ??/1987 Lead RP


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