The direct above Thin Wall Special is a continuously elegant gem. Climb TWS to a ledge at 8m then direct into the faint angled scoop above. This has immaculate rock, surprising holds and plenty of good micro-gear (no hooks needed) until a final bold step right leads to easier ground left of LBJ P1. Belay and finish at your leisure.

Lumbering Oaf 31/May 2nd O/S

Steady, small gear, but more than you would think looking from below, good climbing - great alternative to Thin Wall Special P1. Worth a star or two.

with Luke
Hidden 18/May TR dog
FlavioL1989 17/Apr 2nd O/S
with Jenny
JendeHoxar 17/Apr Lead O/S
aiyer 29/Aug/16 2nd O/S
Brian H 20/Sep/15 Lead rpt
with Martin Dunning
George.Rowland 27/Jun/15 2nd

Hard and thin with decent enough gear. Great steady lead from Bob especially as he led it by mistake and thought he'd done an HVS variation! finished up doorpost.

Bob Peters 27/Jun/15 Lead O/S

Had no intention of doing the eliminate. Must have gone this way when I followed Gerry Taylor up it in 2007. Nice link with top 2 pitches of doorpost.

Brian H 08/Jun/14 2nd rpt

Pete led main pitch - we finished up top pitch of Thin Wall Special

Hidden 08/Jun/14 Lead O/S
alice fuller 08/Jun/14 2nd
gowla 08/Apr/14 2nd
with Max
Macca_7 01/Mar/14 AltLd O/S

Stu had the first bold pitch as the 1st pitch of thin wall special was soaking I had the top T.W.S. pitch which is a wild ride at the grade superb!

with Stu Bradbury
Hidden 03/Apr/13 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2012 Lead O/S
masa-alpin 30/Apr/11 Lead dog

I agree this route is E2 5b for most people. However, for the (very) shorties, this is E4 5c, as the last move in the hard section is a lot harder than any other moves, a definite 5c, for the shorts (whereas pointlessly easy for those with a normal reach) with a real decking potential. My 9-metres fall from there was miraculously stopped by a skyhook.

with Jo B, Doug S
drysori 24/Apr/10 Lead

Worth a star really.

Hidden ?/Apr/10 2nd dog
Hidden ??/2010 2nd
Hidden ??/2010 -
wojt ??/2006 Lead
Hidden 25/May/03 Lead O/S
andy_pemberton ??/2002 Lead

It's bold!

NickP ??/2000 -
Nigel Coe 29/May/98 Lead

Scary runout.

with Tim Dunsby
Andy Say 03/Jun/94 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/Aug/91 Lead
Hidden ?/Aug/90 Lead O/S
Dave Rumney ?/Jun/90 Lead
jcw ??/1986 -
with Simon Caterall
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