24m.

Rockfax Description
A pleasant eliminate weaving up the face between Welcome and The Nails to a finish up the black slab above and left of the final groove of The Nails. If you finish up Welcome to Hard Times the grade is worth E3 5c. © Rockfax

FA. Bill Birch, Rick Gibbon 1994. FA. (the finish as described) Bruce Goodwin, Gordon Mason 1995

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goi.ashmore 9 Jun, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: Contrived, but the finish is quite pleasant.
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βeta: Contrived, but the finish is quite pleasant.
Chris Craggs 15 Apr, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: The route joins The Nails about 3m lower than shown on the topo. Chris
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βeta: The route joins The Nails about 3m lower than shown on the topo. Chris
Katya 14 Jun, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: Worth inclusion I'd reckon, pleasant climbing, and independant as eliminates go, except for 1 move on the Nalis where it crosses.
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βeta: Worth inclusion I'd reckon, pleasant climbing, and independant as eliminates go, except for 1 move on the Nalis where it crosses.
roger whetton 26 May, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: I tried to 'weave my way' between Welcome and Nails but whilst it may have been pleasant it was barely independant in places and I certainly found no 5c move. Is it really worth recording in a selective guide? Cross Purposes is better and doesn't get a mention. The finish has frequently been used as an alternative finish to (or escape from!) The Nails and might be better described as such. Following it makes Nails an amenable HVS rather than a rather unbalanced E1.
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βeta: I tried to 'weave my way' between Welcome and Nails but whilst it may have been pleasant it was barely independant in places and I certainly found no 5c move. Is it really worth recording in a selective guide? Cross Purposes is better and doesn't get a mention. The finish has frequently been used as an alternative finish to (or escape from!) The Nails and might be better described as such. Following it makes Nails an amenable HVS rather than a rather unbalanced E1.
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User Date Style Notes & Partners
PeteWilson 27 Aug 2nd O/S Quite tough I thought, but tired and not moving well so who knows...
Quite tough I thought, but tired and not moving well so who knows...
Hidden 27 Aug Lead
Graeme Hammond 23 Jul Lead O/S
Hidden 23 Jul 2nd O/S
Frank the Husky 21 Jul -
with Jules
with Jules
Frank the Husky 28 Jun -
with Irish George
with Irish George
WillRhodes 26 Jun Lead O/S Bit of a non-line but still okish. Start seemed quite hard.
Bit of a non-line but still okish. Start seemed quite hard.
Hidden 3 Jun 2nd
SGD 3 Jun Lead O/S Really liked this. As its a bit of a non line it actually makes for a very absorbing route as the line is not obvious.
Really liked this. As its a bit of a non line it actually makes for a very absorbing route as the line is not obvious.
Dean.p.92 23 Mar 2nd O/S
with Alex A
with Alex A
Hidden 18 Aug, 2018 Lead
Hidden 27 Jul, 2018 2nd
Remyveness 5 Jul, 2018 2nd O/S
Hidden 1 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S
MatthewK 1 Jul, 2018 2nd
with Matt Clark
with Matt Clark
gritstone7 29 Jun, 2018 2nd O/S
Nick Wallis 27 Jun, 2018 2nd O/S Nice climbing, just about stays independent of routes either side. The start is quite goey with just a single wire protecting the hard moves.
with Simon Cooke
Nice climbing, just about stays independent of routes either side. The start is quite goey with just a single wire protecting the hard moves.
with Simon Cooke
andybirtwistle 7 Jun, 2018 2nd
with Paul Deane, Simon Watchhorn Rice
with Paul Deane, Simon Watchhorn Rice
Hidden 31 May, 2018 -
janegallwey 31 May, 2018 TR
Coel Hellier 20 May, 2018 Lead
Hidden 6 Aug, 2017 2nd O/S
mikeski 6 Aug, 2017 Lead rpt
RM199 22 Jul, 2017 Lead O/S
Brannock 9 Apr, 2017 Lead rpt
Brannock 18 Sep, 2016 Lead rpt
Longsufferingropeholder 6 Aug, 2016 Lead O/S With a navigator on the ground reading the guidebook. Otherwise would be impossible to follow.
With a navigator on the ground reading the guidebook. Otherwise would be impossible to follow.
Hidden 6 Aug, 2016 2nd O/S
nick ferro 6 Aug, 2016 2nd O/S
Hulda 31 Jul, 2016 2nd
with Andrew1
with Andrew1
Andrew1 31 Jul, 2016 Lead
with Hulda
with Hulda
Hidden 19 Jul, 2016 2nd
Archbishop 19 Jun, 2016 2nd
with Dan Shacklock
with Dan Shacklock
JEP 17 May, 2016 Lead
David Kay 11 Aug, 2015 2nd
with Richard Waltham
with Richard Waltham
UndercoverElephant 25 Jul, 2015 Lead O/S
Neil McA 25 Jul, 2015 Lead rpt
with Nick Wallace, martin cooper
with Nick Wallace, martin cooper
Hidden 18 Jul, 2015 2nd
Alex@home 17 Jul, 2015 Lead O/S Tries and almost completely fails to find independence from neighbouring routes. A rarity at Staden - a route I don't want to do again
with leon
Tries and almost completely fails to find independence from neighbouring routes. A rarity at Staden - a route I don't want to do again
with leon
Hidden 16 Jul, 2015 Lead O/S
Martin Haworth 5 Jul, 2015 Lead O/S
Brannock 5 Jul, 2015 2nd O/S
Andrew Sloan 5 Jul, 2015 2nd rpt
neilmackie 1 Jul, 2015 2nd
with harry gould
with harry gould
Alan James - UKC and UKH 30 Jun, 2015 Lead
GouldHarry ??, 2015 -
the power 14 Sep, 2014 Lead O/S
derekb 21 Aug, 2014 2nd
with Colin densem
with Colin densem
Hidden 18 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
Mr Sparkle 9 Jul, 2014 2nd
Mike_Hayes 9 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
Hidden 3 Aug, 2013 Lead O/S
Katya 17 Jul, 2013 2nd
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH 17 Jul, 2013 Lead
with Katya
with Katya
rurp 27 May, 2012 Lead O/S
LittleClimbingMaria 4 Sep, 2010 -
Chris the Tall 2 Sep, 2010 Lead O/S Very pleasant. Couple of awkward moves low down, not that well protected, but escapable.
with Becks
Very pleasant. Couple of awkward moves low down, not that well protected, but escapable.
with Becks
belay bunny turned bad 2 Sep, 2010 2nd
with chris
with chris
Hidden 31 Aug, 2010 2nd
Hidden 31 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S
Adam Armitage 25 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 1 Aug, 2010 Lead
petellis 25 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S Great route - shame about the other climbs being there.
Great route - shame about the other climbs being there.
Paul ablitt 23 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
khawk 11 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
with datoon
with datoon
Martin Cooper 3 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
with Andrew
with Andrew
galpinos 26 Jun, 2010 2nd
with Ben & Brian
with Ben & Brian
Misha 22 May, 2010 Lead O/S Didn't manage the direct move level with and just to the left of the E2 crux of Hard Times. Seemed too hard and not sufficiently well protected for E1 5c! Therefore moved into The Nails a couple of metres below the point indicated by the guide book. Is the guide book wrong or am I just not good enough?
with Mike Todd, Ian W
Didn't manage the direct move level with and just to the left of the E2 crux of Hard Times. Seemed too hard and not sufficiently well protected for E1 5c! Therefore moved into The Nails a couple of metres below the point indicated by the guide book. Is the guide book wrong or am I just not good enough?
with Mike Todd, Ian W
Hidden 12 Sep, 2009 2nd O/S
Hidden 12 Sep, 2009 Lead O/S
steveb2006 23 Aug, 2009 Lead
leepip 11 Jul, 2009 Lead O/S
with hairy tom
with hairy tom
Hidden 10 Jul, 2009 Lead O/S
dsh 10 Jul, 2009 2nd O/S
with JayK
with JayK
duzinga 25 Aug, 2008 Lead O/S
Hidden 25 Aug, 2008 -
Hidden 22 Aug, 2008 Lead O/S
Hidden 3 May, 2008 Lead
Andrew Sloan 9 Sep, 2007 2nd O/S
with Richard
with Richard
Martin Haworth ?Sep, 2007 Lead O/S
Coel Hellier 19 Jul, 2007 Lead
goi.ashmore 8 Jun, 2007 Lead O/S
with Marek Piekarski
with Marek Piekarski
Peakphil 3 Jun, 2007 Lead O/S Great route...apart from the polished bit where it crosses 'Nails'. Nicely delicate with good gear when you need it
Great route...apart from the polished bit where it crosses 'Nails'. Nicely delicate with good gear when you need it
Jack Symmons ?Jun, 2007 Lead
with Chris T
with Chris T
Ropeboy 29 Apr, 2007 Lead
steveb2006 7 Jun, 2006 Lead
with Roland Smith
with Roland Smith
Boy ??, 2006 -
steveb2006 10 Jul, 2005 2nd
with Pete Carter
with Pete Carter
cem 3 Jul, 2005 Lead O/S
with Pete Atkinson, Rob Smithies
with Pete Atkinson, Rob Smithies
Ben1983 ?May, 2005 Lead O/S
phardman 14 Aug, 2004 Lead dog
Hidden ??, 2004 Lead O/S
Hidden ??, 2000 -
nickcanute ??, 1999 Lead O/S
craig h ?Jan, 1998 Lead O/S
with Janet Hannah, Liz Brown
with Janet Hannah, Liz Brown
Hidden ?Jun, 1985 Lead O/S
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