23m. Climbs the flake and groove line directly to the right of "Llewelyn ap..." and shares the final bolt and lower-off with that route.

Start at the obvious flake feature and climb directly through some broken rock to an awkward move leading to the 6th bolt. Above this move off left to easier ground and the lower-off.

Some loose rock. Will improve with traffic.

Bolted with 6 10mm Stainless Steel expansion bolts.

Mat Dowsett & Paul Cubbins 13/Jan/2013

Feedback

UserDateNotes
fuddam 10 Jul Show βeta
βeta: some loose rock, but minor. Evidence of bigger chunks having fallen off, about halfway up.
βeta?
Show beta
βeta: some loose rock, but minor. Evidence of bigger chunks having fallen off, about halfway up.
Login as Existing User to add your feedback

Logged Ascents

User Date Style Notes & Partners
rockcat 28 Oct TR rpt Loose rock still coming off it. An unpleasant experience.
Loose rock still coming off it. An unpleasant experience.
michael burrows 28 Oct Lead rpt
with rockcat, Mel
with rockcat, Mel
GazE83 29 Aug Lead O/S Gap between first and second bolts is pretty big, it's a relief once you've clipped in to the second bolt
Gap between first and second bolts is pretty big, it's a relief once you've clipped in to the second bolt
Hopton_dawn88 29 Aug Lead
with GazE83
with GazE83
RockPhoenix 21 Aug Lead O/S
with Kamal
with Kamal
jycr 10 Jul Lead β Good climbing :)
with Elias, Noah, fuddam
Good climbing :)
with Elias, Noah, fuddam
fuddam 10 Jul Lead O/S good route. Will be back for it again. A little loose in parts
with jycr
good route. Will be back for it again. A little loose in parts
with jycr
ckerry439 18 Jun Lead
Rob Davies 12 May Lead Rock still seems dubious in places. Phil had route-finding problems!
with Phil A
Rock still seems dubious in places. Phil had route-finding problems!
with Phil A
Dirty Knees 20 Apr Lead O/S
Hidden 20 Apr Lead O/S
mjeffery 30 Mar Lead O/S
Hidden 24 Feb 2nd
Hidden 9 Jan Lead rpt
Angry old man 9 Jan 2nd Getting looser!!
with Basil
Getting looser!!
with Basil
BarbsMurray 4 Nov, 2018 2nd
pauldrew 4 Nov, 2018 Lead
mitch 29 Aug, 2018 Lead O/S
with Vicky Hoolohan
with Vicky Hoolohan
Mats1902 22 Jul, 2018 2nd O/S
with ciaran
with ciaran
michael burrows 3 Jul, 2018 Lead rpt
mjprend 26 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
with Clint Kerry
with Clint Kerry
nickcanute 14 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
Pete_Frost 26 May, 2018 Lead O/S
useful 22 May, 2018 Lead O/S
with Rob N CMC, michael burrows, rockcat
with Rob N CMC, michael burrows, rockcat
michael burrows 22 May, 2018 Lead rpt
with margaret duggan, john roberts
with margaret duggan, john roberts
Astilath 14 May, 2018 Lead O/S
emlynroberts 14 May, 2018 2nd
Hidden 9 May, 2018 Lead O/S
Hidden 26 Apr, 2018 Lead rpt
steveriley 19 Apr, 2018 Lead Some rock scars, but seems solid enough. Felt worth grade for positions almost.
with Dan
Some rock scars, but seems solid enough. Felt worth grade for positions almost.
with Dan
Ian Ford 8 Apr, 2018 Lead O/S
Angry old man 7 Mar, 2018 2nd
with Basil
with Basil
Hidden 7 Mar, 2018 Lead
Rob Davies 17 Feb, 2018 Lead
with Phil A
with Phil A
Hidden 16 Feb, 2018 Lead O/S
Angry old man 16 Feb, 2018 2nd
tmawer 6 Oct, 2017 Lead O/S
BTphonehome 6 Oct, 2017 Lead rpt
with tmawer
with tmawer
a_m154 20 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
Kriss0503 15 Aug, 2017 2nd dog
magsb 15 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
with sedeki
with sedeki
paulsross 15 Aug, 2017 Lead
with John Roberts
with John Roberts
michael burrows 15 Aug, 2017 Lead rpt
with margaret duggan
with margaret duggan
James Worthington 29 Jul, 2017 Lead
with Emma
with Emma
Roger Cruse 7 Jun, 2017 Lead rpt
with Kris
with Kris
Ron Rees Davies 1 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden 1 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden 31 May, 2017 Lead O/S
pauldrew 31 May, 2017 Lead
with Mike Jones, Kevin Sales
with Mike Jones, Kevin Sales
emgroves 2 Apr, 2017 -
Charles Kinniburgh 7 Mar, 2017 2nd
Rob Davies 7 Mar, 2017 Lead Good, despite some dodgy rock.
Good, despite some dodgy rock.
kasha_gregson 5 Feb, 2017 Lead O/S
BTphonehome 5 Feb, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden 10 Oct, 2016 Lead O/S
*superchilled 7 Sep, 2016 Lead O/S
with Andy, Gareth
with Andy, Gareth
pauldrew 26 Aug, 2016 Lead
with Dennis Wong, jim jones
with Dennis Wong, jim jones
Jani_J 21 Aug, 2016 2nd
ErikWaskiewicz 21 Aug, 2016 Lead O/S
with Kris, Rob, Jo, Tom, Paul, emlynroberts, Jani_J
with Kris, Rob, Jo, Tom, Paul, emlynroberts, Jani_J
Hidden 21 Aug, 2016 2nd
emlynroberts 21 Aug, 2016 Lead
Dan77 5 Jul, 2016 Lead rpt
Glyn Davidson 5 Jul, 2016 Lead rpt
with Dan77
with Dan77
michael burrows 9 May, 2016 TR
with martin worthy, Arwel
with martin worthy, Arwel
Rob Davies 23 Feb, 2016 Lead
with Phil A
with Phil A
Kristof252 ??, 2016 Lead O/S
Allanfairfechan ??, 2016 2nd
with Andy Chapman
with Andy Chapman
pauldrew 20 Nov, 2015 Lead
with Phil Moore, jim jones
with Phil Moore, jim jones
Ceriii 9 Oct, 2015 Lead O/S
gotthebug 17 Aug, 2015 TR A large hold came off just before the lower off.
with Andy Graham
A large hold came off just before the lower off.
with Andy Graham
Matt Bill Platypus 12 Aug, 2015 Lead O/S
with Helen F
with Helen F
Otis 29 Jul, 2015 Lead Surprisingly good - well worth climbing.
Surprisingly good - well worth climbing.
John Eley 18 Jul, 2015 TR O/S
Rotorslap 18 Jul, 2015 Lead O/S Great route. Experienced rock fall flake 4m up, after it had already taken weight.
Great route. Experienced rock fall flake 4m up, after it had already taken weight.
Roger Cruse 12 Jul, 2015 Lead rpt
with Rog H
with Rog H
Hidden 27 Jun, 2015 Lead O/S
gotthebug 26 May, 2015 TR
with Andy Graham
with Andy Graham
noemie5438 16 May, 2015 Lead rpt
with Shirley, Liam
with Shirley, Liam
maty500 10 May, 2015 Lead O/S
Hidden ?May, 2015 TR
michael burrows 18 Apr, 2015 2nd rpt
with john roberts
with john roberts
Owen240 ?Apr, 2015 Lead O/S
Rob Davies 28 Mar, 2015 Lead Bits are still loose! Rain stopped play
with Phil A
Bits are still loose! Rain stopped play
with Phil A
Hidden ??, 2015 Lead O/S
Keiran O'Mahony 27 Oct, 2014 Lead O/S
with Julia Bunney
with Julia Bunney
Roger Cruse 17 Aug, 2014 Lead rpt
with Kris
with Kris
Hidden 21 Jun, 2014 2nd O/S
Hidden 21 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S
noemie5438 5 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S
with Marieke
with Marieke
Hidden 5 Jun, 2014 Lead
Hidden 20 May, 2014 2nd
pauldrew 10 May, 2014 Lead
michael burrows 7 May, 2014 Lead O/S found the hardest part was getting to the 2nd bolt, after that it was steady and better than it looked, plenty of bolts and appears to have cleaned up a bit
with rockcat
found the hardest part was getting to the 2nd bolt, after that it was steady and better than it looked, plenty of bolts and appears to have cleaned up a bit
with rockcat
morgan91 6 May, 2014 Lead O/S
SGD 4 May, 2014 Lead O/S Did this without knowing what it was. I thought it was a nice climb although as others have mentioned there are some loose blocks about half way up but you climb round these without ever going too near them. felt about 5/5+ to me.
with vholmes
Did this without knowing what it was. I thought it was a nice climb although as others have mentioned there are some loose blocks about half way up but you climb round these without ever going too near them. felt about 5/5+ to me.
with vholmes
Rob Davies 27 Apr, 2014 Lead
with Phil A
with Phil A
roger whetton 13 Apr, 2014 - A poor and rather worrying route - gaining the second bolt is particularly scarey! Nowhere near as good as the other routes on the slab.
A poor and rather worrying route - gaining the second bolt is particularly scarey! Nowhere near as good as the other routes on the slab.
emlynroberts 12 Apr, 2014 Lead dnf Needs a clean to make it safe! Some very loose large blocks about 60% up route, didnt like the risk of knocking them down onto belayer, so lowered off.
with Matadoors, Jana, Paul Emmett, Karoliina Koivisto
Needs a clean to make it safe! Some very loose large blocks about 60% up route, didnt like the risk of knocking them down onto belayer, so lowered off.
with Matadoors, Jana, Paul Emmett, Karoliina Koivisto
johnwoo 19 Mar, 2014 Lead O/S
johnwoo ??, 2014 Lead rpt
Hidden 9 Dec, 2013 2nd
Roger Cruse 23 Sep, 2013 Lead O/S
with Kris & Jill
with Kris & Jill
ChristineLouise89 30 Aug, 2013 Lead dnf Between 5th and 6th bolt my foot slipped twice on a crap foot hold then I completely fell from the route. Nice technical climb until then, shame the rock is extremely loose.
Between 5th and 6th bolt my foot slipped twice on a crap foot hold then I completely fell from the route. Nice technical climb until then, shame the rock is extremely loose.
ScottStephen88 30 Aug, 2013 Lead O/S Very loose in places. I pulled a large shoebox sized piece of rock off between the 5th and 6th bolt. That whole section looks very unstable. Enjoyable climb apart from that.
Very loose in places. I pulled a large shoebox sized piece of rock off between the 5th and 6th bolt. That whole section looks very unstable. Enjoyable climb apart from that.
ScottStephen88 30 Aug, 2013 Lead rpt
John H Bull (tcfka Bullybones) 30 Aug, 2013 Lead O/S
with Linda F
with Linda F
Hidden 28 Aug, 2013 Lead O/S
Barrez 25 Aug, 2013 Lead O/S
with Rob2904
with Rob2904
rockjedi 25 Aug, 2013 Lead O/S
with Yin Yueng
with Yin Yueng
TraverseKing 23 Aug, 2013 -
ellpeecee 26 May, 2013 Lead O/S As mentioned above will be better with traffic. Beware, theres a lose block on the right by the 5th. Nice enough tho at 6a and gets you to the top
with Tom Mac
As mentioned above will be better with traffic. Beware, theres a lose block on the right by the 5th. Nice enough tho at 6a and gets you to the top
with Tom Mac
Hidden 14 May, 2013 -
TheAndyBarker 5 May, 2013 Lead
with Jonny Herbert
with Jonny Herbert
Hidden 14 Apr, 2013 2nd
debbie roberts 3 Apr, 2013 2nd
Marti999 3 Apr, 2013 Lead O/S
rockcat 28 Feb, 2013 Lead A choss fest and rather dangerous.
A choss fest and rather dangerous.
Rob Davies 17 Feb, 2013 Lead New bolt line. Keep R of the flake to start. Bits are loose.
New bolt line. Keep R of the flake to start. Bits are loose.
neilh 17 Feb, 2013 Lead
Rampikino 13 Jan, 2013 Lead FIRST ASCENT Bolted and led while keeping an eye on the coming snow. Dedicated to my beautiful daughter Isabella Rose.
FIRST ASCENT Bolted and led while keeping an eye on the coming snow. Dedicated to my beautiful daughter Isabella Rose.
The Bad Cough 13 Jan, 2013 Lead O/S 2nd ascent after Rampikino. Cheers Mate!
2nd ascent after Rampikino. Cheers Mate!
5 users have this on their wishlist
Voting
High 6a+
Mid 6a+
Low 6a+
High 6a
Mid 6a
Low 6a
High 5c
Mid 5c
Low 5c
Votes cast 21
Votes cast 18
Style of Ascent
Lead
Followed
Toproped
Not Set
Onsighted
Repeated
DNF
Dogged
Flashed (β)
Not Set